S7 EP4: The almost true adventures Oscar Garza & Professor LatinX

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[00:00:34] Que onda, Primos Primas, Primas and Primas, and welcome back to my Primos Podcast. My

[00:00:46] name is Freddie and with me tonight is my Prima in yours, Miss Elia Maria Spice

[00:00:51] Illustrations. Say what's up Elia. What's up Kevin? Oh, well wait,

[00:00:56] you're full of them. But Elia, you've been gone. That's why I forgot my own name. It's

[00:01:07] been so long. You haven't been so long. I've missed you. You've

[00:01:11] been missed. You've missed your lunch a lot. So we also have a special guest tonight

[00:01:16] coming back. I think you have now topped the most episodes. You've helped

[00:01:22] host. You've been against numerous times. We're speaking of course, the

[00:01:28] fantastical, magical, flipante, Oscar of five meets comics. Oscar Garza. Say

[00:01:36] what's up, Oscar? What's up Kevin?

[00:01:39] What's up Kevin? It's okay. Just what's up Kevin? You know what, after all the fucking

[00:01:48] love that they don't need gave Kevin last episode. I know he's like, everybody needs a

[00:01:54] Kevin in their lives. Do you have a Kevin in your life Oscar?

[00:02:00] I knew the Kevin in my life had just happens to be Kevin. Oh, there it is. Get that.

[00:02:07] Well, pretty much tonight we're going to have a blast. We're going to catch up with Oscar

[00:02:11] and Elia of course talk about some cool new work that Oscars involved in and geek out

[00:02:17] about the stuff that we love to geek out about. But remember guys follow us at my

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[00:02:37] and I guess thumbs up, a lot of applause for Kevin's campaign. His campaign for the

[00:02:43] Kickstarter for World War Comics going through. So Kevin and everybody that Apple

[00:02:49] Yo and jumped on board so really happy for that. So keep an eye on that. But let's catch

[00:02:55] up a little bit. It's been a while since you've all been in the same virtual space if you will.

[00:03:00] Yeah, Oscar what have you been up to man since last we saw you? Well, Elia Maria I've never

[00:03:08] been in a virtual space with you before. I've been a person even around the

[00:03:13] person but yeah. Yeah, never in the interwaves. What's new with me? Let's see,

[00:03:19] dang well through fences dropped which is a book we've been working on for years.

[00:03:26] With Fredro Gautama and then what else I'm back into wrestling. Pugging, Chavio Kow

[00:03:33] on just had a wrestling match last week at Fight Opera here in Austin Texas. And then we are going

[00:03:41] to do another show party world wrestling in March, which I'm very excited about at the end of March.

[00:03:47] And that's what's up with me. That's awesome. It's always fun. You're always doing your things.

[00:03:53] Let's talk about Miss Elia Maria. She's been out for a bit but you know I like to mess with Elia

[00:04:00] when Elia has free time she doesn't use it. She doesn't use it at all. She's always working. She's

[00:04:06] checking in on people asking about the pod but yet she won't watch things or listen to things

[00:04:12] or play things. I'm getting better. I'm getting better. I'm getting better.

[00:04:16] And you get to do anything not creative working or like something you can just lay out and enjoy

[00:04:24] like consume something during your life. I watched all of the live action avatar.

[00:04:30] Hey, that was fun. That was fun. Yeah. What'd you think of it? Yeah. I actually liked it. I

[00:04:36] actually really liked it. I saw I get so much hate online and I thought I was going in for

[00:04:40] the M Night Shyamalan like worse version and no. Like I thought it was fairly well done. Like yeah,

[00:04:47] I will critique some of the acting in it but overall I thought it was really beautiful and well done.

[00:04:54] I'm ready for the second season. How's going to do you watch it? Or did you offend an avatar now?

[00:04:58] I did not and I probably won't watch it. And I don't mean that in a negative way at all. I just

[00:05:04] feel like I already saw it. Like I saw the whole I saw all of the avatar. I saw the cartoon.

[00:05:12] I kind of feel like it's a thing everybody wanted but it doesn't need to exist. So like I don't feel

[00:05:21] bad skipping it just because like I already saw it and yeah, I'm good. I'm good. I for one

[00:05:29] enjoyed the shit out of it but my wife had never seen the cartoon. It's crazy how we

[00:05:36] call anime, Japanese anime's anime but this western-ish anime vibes cartoon right whatever but

[00:05:47] love the original series was a fan of it through and through and when we watched the show

[00:05:53] I really liked it. Yeah, some of the like I said acting was a little

[00:05:56] guitara then over the top. Yeah besides that everything else was pretty solid. I dug it.

[00:06:02] There were some pretty cool heartfelt episodes that I didn't think they were going to touch on.

[00:06:06] They actually brought on. Not just kill it for anybody if they haven't enjoyed a show that's like

[00:06:12] 20 years old now but you're right. I think there is something where

[00:06:19] I enjoyed what I experienced when the original run came through and when we have the live action

[00:06:24] of it. I got a lot of that oh shit like a little bit of uncanny valley with some of the characters,

[00:06:29] some of the setups and it made me feel good. I was like wow that's pretty cool that we pulled

[00:06:33] it off but could you skip it all together and just enjoy the animated one? Of course.

[00:06:40] So if you're taking for what it's worth we've talked about this before. We want to keep things

[00:06:44] in their own. Don't just back on it because it's not like the anime or not like the cartoon

[00:06:49] or not like the comic book. Like on its own solid but hey good all around. Yeah.

[00:06:57] Now I usually I'm kind of against the notion that a live action has to be the be all and all

[00:07:05] of your story. Yeah, I'm not definitely not a fan of that kind of notion especially being a

[00:07:11] combo creator. People are always like you want your thing to be like a animated series or a movie

[00:07:19] only yes only because I want to get paid for that. Yeah, yeah. You're real like I like my comic

[00:07:27] my comic is great but I won't feel bad if it never becomes a movie or a TV show. I would love

[00:07:33] it because then I can like pay off my house that'd be rad. Yeah. Yeah. Other than that. Yeah,

[00:07:40] other than that. I can care less. I mean touching on that subject right because we're here but

[00:07:46] I enjoy and this is the thing like we talked about it let's live on its own yeah there are certain stories

[00:07:52] in books where you hear hey they're making a movie please don't fuck it up. Yeah, that's kind of

[00:07:57] like your your thing. That's usually the way to think right? Yeah, like don't fuck it up but yeah

[00:08:03] I think and I'm a few with me guys. I'll be almost out there. I get that feeling because I know

[00:08:10] especially on something that I've enjoyed like I'm a fan of it. I'm like I want someone that's never

[00:08:17] read it to experience what I experience you know maybe not to my degree but like if you've never

[00:08:24] let's say I would try for example right? If you've never consumed it and this is your first

[00:08:31] experience with it. If they fuck it up it's it breaks your heart because they're going to go back

[00:08:37] when you comes up in conversation you're like hey what do you mean? You didn't get you didn't see

[00:08:43] this character you didn't do that you didn't watch this like you didn't get the same experience. It

[00:08:47] doesn't do justice not only for your your experience but for the people creating the show. I agree

[00:08:52] with that. I guess that's one of the reasons why something like a live action avatar might

[00:08:58] be a pro for it to exist being someone who never watched the show or somebody who doesn't even

[00:09:04] like animation could possibly get into it and that's and then you know you can you know leave

[00:09:10] the gate open you have to gate keep on there we're like if you like avatar it doesn't matter

[00:09:15] if it's a cartoon or movie if they were you know if they like it because it's I think it's

[00:09:19] essentially the same story they're telling right? So I guess a good example of that is I'm a huge

[00:09:26] Lord of the Rings fan unless I'm in the room with somebody who's written his read the books because

[00:09:31] I've never read the damn books but I love those you know yeah and so you know I'm reading

[00:09:41] the habit to one of my kids at night so I'm reading I'm starting the token books now just starting

[00:09:50] to read them and it's it's it's fun to do but like if I've never read the books I you know

[00:09:58] I still wouldn't care I love more I can still say a little more of her eggs yeah no I went to go see

[00:10:03] the Hobbit movies with someone who was very dedicated to the book they walked out of the theater

[00:10:08] hating it and I was like that was the best movie ever yeah yeah yeah I know yeah

[00:10:17] and maybe it's for the best if you watch a condensed version or something first

[00:10:23] yeah before you get into the big nerdy mean potato thing I don't know maybe that's

[00:10:27] maybe that's better I don't know I mean I agree because for example I know the I know

[00:10:36] we're talking what's the school but when the movies came out that's when they got thrust

[00:10:41] into the mainstream right and everybody had to go read the Hobbit read the Lord of the Rings and

[00:10:46] really go after it and see the ins and outs and everybody wanted to be the expert you know like

[00:10:52] and know what I've topped your head and the trip yeah and all this stuff right and

[00:10:57] I'm from a far gone age where you had to go memorize stuff instead of googling it right

[00:11:03] like my kid my kid's 14 and I fuck with them because I'm like we'll have a conversation

[00:11:07] and then be like well what about this and he's like I don't know oh if only I had a supercomputer

[00:11:13] in my pocket that just very exciting and he's like okay damn I had to fucking walk to the library on

[00:11:23] a hot ass day and go look at the card catalog and like ask the librarian like what do you think

[00:11:30] and then the internet and try to like you know print the pictures of Samo Hayek or whatever

[00:11:37] whatever you're growing up in the 80s you ask a question and your older brother tells you

[00:11:44] wrong information and that becomes fact in your head my uncle worked for Nintendo he told me okay

[00:11:54] that's always the thing you know it took less but let me just kind of move on guys because I do

[00:12:01] want to talk about Oscars work and through fences so Oscar I got a sneak peek of it I really

[00:12:09] enjoyed it I want to give you like my thoughts on it but first give us the pitch sure everybody

[00:12:17] it doesn't know what through fences is and what it's about and kind of why they need to go get it

[00:12:23] yeah through fences it's about 80s pages like 1799 go get it

[00:12:33] yeah tell you there it is fun and done great marketing and marketing

[00:12:38] yeah so it's an anthology series done it's like eight different stories pulled through different

[00:12:49] people's eyes loosely based on real occurrences that happen in the news throughout you know the past

[00:12:57] 10-ish years with the more dicey hairy you know the past administration we've been living through

[00:13:09] and it's like the immigration policies where things get you know people get the scapegoated

[00:13:15] and seen as enemies and just use foretoking points and and boogie men are like they're just

[00:13:21] real-ass people who are living their lives and trying to better their lives and they get caught up in

[00:13:27] you know in politics and it's really scummy and credy but it's real life and it happened

[00:13:33] and the thing about this it's an anthology it's a collection of short stories don't written by

[00:13:38] one person professor Frederik Luis Aldama formerly of a university of Ohio I think

[00:13:47] Ohio yeah yeah yeah and in now in Austin UT and it's all illustrated by me and so you know in

[00:13:59] order to have the anthology be different stories told by a different point of view and for the R

[00:14:06] I use different ourselves for each story to try to break it up a bit and it's not

[00:14:14] you know it's not a fun read it's a hard it's a tough read I think because it's real-life stuff

[00:14:19] you know things nobody nobody has a happy ending in this book you know

[00:14:25] um and it wouldn't be it wouldn't be the book that it is if it did you know it's just

[00:14:34] you know unfortunate things that people are going through now you know some people don't even make

[00:14:40] it out of their story a lot you know it's tough it's a tough read and but it's important in whether

[00:14:48] you lean you know whether you ball swing to the left or to the right or of your centrist

[00:14:57] even y'all centrist bugs you do have to do a vote so it's an I feel like it's an

[00:15:04] important read to put yourself in other people's shoes many people's shoes and you know a little

[00:15:11] bit of their lives and not and not the front part yeah yeah you you have some thoughts um start with

[00:15:20] you what do you think about the book in general and just kind of thoughts about it and we have

[00:15:26] yeah I have thoughts so definitely please I have many thoughts and no I really enjoyed it I

[00:15:33] feel like it like I don't want to sound like I'm pushing it on education like what should be but

[00:15:41] honestly I feel like this is a good read for like high schoolers um to read and understand

[00:15:49] that this is actually happening because all these stories were so realistic so well like um

[00:15:57] passed out and I you mentioned the different ourselves that was something that I like noticed

[00:16:02] immediately as he was like at least to the third the third story and I was like wait was this

[00:16:07] all Oscar I like scrolled up just to make sure because I was like oh my god um I loved all the

[00:16:12] different styles used for each story and um there was one that was like in all black and white

[00:16:20] and I thought it was such a good choice to tell that story um as as such I don't know I don't

[00:16:26] know how to describe but like each character you open the chapter you met someone else in a new style

[00:16:32] and it it set the tone the colors even like changed with the moods um the one that I actually

[00:16:38] had to put the book down at one point because I was crying um it was the the chapter of the

[00:16:44] queer couple that's all I'll say I'm not gonna say how it ends yeah that's the that's definitely the

[00:16:50] um one of the high high points as far as like a motion in the book yeah and the work on it was

[00:16:58] beautiful and the the chapter card that it ended on ripped my heart out it ripped my heart out

[00:17:05] um and I had to put it down because I was I was crying I'm like this this this happens this happens

[00:17:11] yeah and not to say like it was glamorized but it was um it was drawn in a way that made the story

[00:17:18] bearable more than like you know that the matter yeah but that was you know you're still gonna take it

[00:17:28] yeah yeah easy but it's still gonna take it yeah and that was by design the the art styles were

[00:17:34] definitely by design like the first if you look in the first two to get into the how the sausage is

[00:17:39] made or whatever like the first two stories um so I this this this this book is not my style at all

[00:17:47] like is it a very serious book about politics and about immigration and I do you know

[00:17:55] Dick and Farjox you know amazing yeah I do I knew Lohbrough Silly Comedy um but because of my

[00:18:07] background growing up in the border uh I'll down with felt that I was a really good fit and I'm

[00:18:11] easy I'm easy due to work with so that made it even easier uh well so the first uh two stories

[00:18:19] was actually me trying way too hard because the first two stories are done like in like a very

[00:18:24] realistic style um and that like especially with the first one because that one has to do with

[00:18:32] the children kids and cages and whatnot and for reference for reference I used my own kids like

[00:18:39] hey stand in the corner and put your hand out like this and then I take a picture and

[00:18:44] and that actually like hurt me emotionally because the point of this book is to put yourself

[00:18:49] in the shoes of these people and and not only did I do that but I but I put my kids in the shoes

[00:18:56] of these people and it hurt me and it hurt me to watch like to draw and so that one really

[00:19:03] messed me up and like I took a break for like months no I'm sorry years I took like two years

[00:19:08] off of this book uh not just because of that I was going through last time at home yeah you know

[00:19:14] covid locked down divorce uh a lot of crazy stuff you know in game really hurt me hard bro you know

[00:19:24] not in no yeah I was actually gonna ask you about that because like the summer yeah

[00:19:31] yeah yeah yeah because like I love you guys he is gonna show up right now oh yeah

[00:19:39] you just jump out of nowhere seriously i'm like i'm such a big fan of your work with three

[00:19:45] not three meets oh my god with five weeks oh no no remember there's five of them

[00:19:49] they're set the sinko um but that's why I was like this was on screen like I'm scrolling up and

[00:19:54] and i'm like if I had to draw something of it just one just one of these I it would be hard

[00:20:01] how did you like manage to just handle being able to illustrate multiple of these stories having

[00:20:07] such a comedic like art background uh well I got I kind of have to get over myself um

[00:20:15] like the first two was actually me being very uh uh I was not confident when I did the first two

[00:20:22] because I drew the book and I drew it in order as you see it in the book

[00:20:26] uh and so the first two are like super realistic style as this totally not my bag and it took a lot

[00:20:33] out of me because I felt like the contents deserved more than what I do so I felt like I should draw

[00:20:42] not like myself I should like but then it ended up being like super depressing for me drawing it

[00:20:49] and then it also like it started maybe spreading the line of like if I do the whole book like this

[00:20:54] I mean people might have well you might have both just done a uh um fumetti in like uh taking pictures

[00:21:02] at or or done like a textbook you know like it wouldn't have worked yeah

[00:21:07] it probably would have been better just to release it as a book you know with like no pictures if

[00:21:13] yeah it would have been so like over depressing like who's gonna read this you know yeah

[00:21:20] so uh after the first two and going through you know I uh not not totally related but like

[00:21:27] uh you know I started going into therapy dealing with my uh separation and divorce

[00:21:33] and I started like feeling better by myself and you know still getting this group back and whatnot

[00:21:38] and then um I started getting back into the book because like I told I told out that I'm on like

[00:21:44] three times like a man you should probably get just give another artist on this book because

[00:21:49] I don't know if I can get back into it and he and to his credit like he denied me at every point

[00:21:57] he was like no leave me no you know you did he's like and he literally he said take all the time

[00:22:02] that you want we started this book I don't know man like maybe 2019 or something yeah

[00:22:10] maybe 2018 yeah so once I once I got back into the book the first two were drawn the first two

[00:22:18] stories uh doora and rocky after that I said like man if I'm gonna do this I just I'm gonna do

[00:22:27] just do it you know I don't have to like don't think about the technical side just think

[00:22:32] about the feelings just think about the feelings and then so the feelings help me with what

[00:22:39] what I'm gonna draw but as far as how I was gonna draw I was just gonna let I was just gonna do it

[00:22:45] so like each one just happened in its own style uh based on what the story is but as far as the

[00:22:53] style itself they they're all the other ones are a little closer to my style but just a little

[00:23:01] little difference is I got to like but I got better from I got to play with the styles you know like

[00:23:08] one of them is um see I should get the name right because I do um I saw your art got very

[00:23:15] familiar for me like starting with Alberto store yeah which is uh regarding someone working for

[00:23:23] the board of patrol over ice and yeah like that one's very similar to just my style and it'll

[00:23:29] sell so that one was like yeah I went for like a it is my style but I went for more of a gritty

[00:23:36] kind of feel yes yeah that's when I recognize your style was that one yeah and I played with the

[00:23:41] made with the shading to give it a scratchier style like if anything are artistically a lot of

[00:23:49] these stories are tests for me on like what mash wonder gritty could look like in the future you

[00:23:55] know if I want to branch out uh and you know and go in full color because I don't really do that a lot

[00:24:02] but yeah each one had to own this different style like um yeah I mean there's one that had to do with

[00:24:09] crossing the river and crossing just literally the part about crossing the river and yeah

[00:24:15] over in California they have those signs with the little little family running you know yeah

[00:24:20] and so I did that whole story through those signs and uh that was me patting on my pet

[00:24:26] of his up at the back like oh hey you know what but like I dig it man like for me reading

[00:24:36] new stories like you said like I was expecting to get like a happy turnaround yeah I was expecting

[00:24:41] to get like oh they're gonna oh she's gonna get out or you know what like the dad's gonna come around

[00:24:47] you know yeah all this stuff but then you realize like some people don't get happy ending

[00:24:52] yeah there's real life they don't get to have happy endings I mean I was watching uh I don't

[00:25:00] this was like maybe 10 years ago there was this documentary on Netflix where these uh

[00:25:04] uh documentary film crew followed these three people as they crossed the border

[00:25:14] um as they you know they got to go through the desert over in like a Arizona or somewhere around

[00:25:21] there and they were following them and it just shows everything they went through it was super

[00:25:27] it was rough I mean you know the the people on those like naked and afraid reality should

[00:25:33] do it for fun you know but yeah yeah it's a trip because you got to to see

[00:25:42] like you said earlier earlier right like you didn't expect it with the art style and that's

[00:25:46] that's as I ask her it's kind of flexing a little bit he gets to flex a little bit on his

[00:25:51] his ability because we've seen one style right but we get to see a little more you just see where

[00:25:58] each person story is different but yet there's a thread right and in a way you know like

[00:26:02] Oscars that thread he's the artist but these people in these stories there's a thread you know

[00:26:07] they're all Latinos are all trying not only that but they're all trying to be immigrated they're

[00:26:10] all trying to be safe they're all trying to just survive this fucking world that

[00:26:16] it's just feels like everything's against you know and um just see it

[00:26:23] all right oh I was just saying you know with the say what you were saying earlier that they don't

[00:26:26] always have happy endings uh that documentary I was talking about the film crew I couldn't hack it

[00:26:32] and so they they stopped at a certain point and then they ended up finding out that um all the people

[00:26:38] all the three people that were crossing they found them dead later oh yeah it was like such a depressing

[00:26:46] uh documentary and it's something I always think now he sticks with me in my head about how

[00:26:55] you know or like well you know that movie um everything's beautiful

[00:26:59] oh yeah the uh the dad eats it you know yeah for a new and had a t9 20 movie

[00:27:08] and then in the child he gets to have that super happy ending but at that point it's like this is

[00:27:16] totally a movie because I didn't have that ending didn't have like thousands of millions of people

[00:27:22] you know Roberto Beninho yeah 97 yep that was beautiful 97 97

[00:27:30] 19 my god dude trust me but things like that stick with you because it's not just wrapped up

[00:27:38] you know like made my wife will watch something or we'll read something and I go that would have

[00:27:42] been amazing if they died and I saw shitty because it's that impact like it's yeah

[00:27:50] it hits and it's gonna stick with you and there's there's there's loss there's something there

[00:27:55] but I really dig the book man I think the art's awesome I love the stories and how they're kind of

[00:28:00] stacked on top of each other like I said that there's a threat there and please go out and look for it

[00:28:06] you said I'm gonna very easy 1999 very affordable go look for it and it's not hard to look for man

[00:28:13] this is like a bookie book you can get it at amazon you can get it at bars and no bull uh you can

[00:28:18] that you can order it online at Walmart you know uh and it's it's the first book that I've had

[00:28:25] that uh distributed and like advertised and like it's available like everywhere which is pretty cool um

[00:28:35] I checked it out by local library and immediately checked it back in

[00:28:41] get them done heck yeah you should keep it they come up as uh the link went like

[00:28:46] damn they really know his book I guess we gotta get it on if you get it on

[00:28:50] they're having copies here so I don't want to just keep stockpiling

[00:28:54] just keep stock you stack them up no exactly a great work that showcases

[00:29:00] not just good stories as a storyteller but very much flexibility of style that you have

[00:29:06] artistically because like I said I had to go double check like this was all a Oscar what I thought

[00:29:11] it was like different arts at one point it's amazing it's amazing work and you did

[00:29:15] work yeah oh no yeah I'm just gonna keep gushing go ahead oh I like gush it's cool uh

[00:29:24] but to talk a little bit about the writing writing too uh aldama did a really bang up job on this

[00:29:30] stuff and um it would our our relationship our bit our our business relationship was super chill

[00:29:37] uh he this was not this was not a comic book script at all uh he wrote a collection of short stories

[00:29:45] and then up and decided oh okay to make it a graphic novel and he gave all the

[00:29:54] that task was all mine like he sent me the he sent me the short stories and said you know

[00:30:01] but I make this into a comic book and I'm like do anything right I'm like

[00:30:06] we might take you might take years and I might quit a couple times but uh

[00:30:11] but yeah sure you did it yeah I was full of stories like a shot shoot your way Oscar

[00:30:16] it's not I know you can do it yeah you're on the line don't you're point though oh yeah I don't

[00:30:21] know what to get in but um like I can't I can't afford you maybe no this was this was great as an

[00:30:28] experience um I'm doing another book um what do you call it the um uh contract worker whatever like

[00:30:37] a writer like this like like a writer approached me to do like a one shot comic book

[00:30:43] and he sent me like a straight-up comic book script detailing like everything he wants in it

[00:30:48] I'm like oh man this is cool like you're like oh shit you made it yeah yeah I could do that

[00:30:54] you can do that too um but it was really interesting thing to go through to get that this kind

[00:31:00] of a script and like turn it into and and this dude he let me go nuts with this but like I gave my ex

[00:31:09] what I felt was his story through my art and he looked at it and for the most part he was just like

[00:31:17] that's great you know like yeah but I can't even think of a change he did if there was any

[00:31:23] uh probably some logistical stuff about things like rules or just how things look yeah but there

[00:31:31] was like almost nothing that I had to change on his end as artistically he was like you know

[00:31:37] osher's artist let him draw kind of thing which was which was pretty cool yeah

[00:31:42] and then like let you cook right that's what the language is like him cook but I definitely enjoyed

[00:31:50] the book a love the artwork I love the writing you know we'll have a damon here soon talk about it

[00:31:55] too you know other works it is up to but moving this along

[00:32:20] I want to talk about something big that happened during this past week so we had the passing of

[00:32:37] a curatoriamma so those that don't know creator of a dragon ball and dragon quest am I wrong

[00:32:45] I think dragon quest are worked for that as well yeah dragon quest because I love those games and

[00:32:50] Colonel trigger he did art for that yeah a tons of stuff he inspired tons of stuff he's

[00:32:55] and but I think the the conversation is just like a knowledgement of how huge this was

[00:33:02] of a reverberated through the Latino community right because we always joke and make the thing but like

[00:33:10] Latinos love fucking dragon ball like they don't play see look there's a grita right here hey

[00:33:16] got my dude right here just because but like you if you don't know if you're Latino you know dragon ball

[00:33:25] but you you literally just it's around you it's in the zeitgeist of it but the fact that we saw

[00:33:30] things like an Argentine I think everybody went and did a fucking spirit bomb you know for me

[00:33:36] and everything and it was so cool like I want to just open it up to you guys and what you guys feel

[00:33:42] about teriyama being artists and just fans as well I don't know if you are aren't most time we

[00:33:50] aren't but just kind of talk about that where do you guys feel or where your head's at yeah I'll

[00:33:56] play against stereotype uh I was never a big dragon ball fan growing up but uh continue yeah

[00:34:04] but uh I was also not a hater uh by a long shot um all my friends were in a dragon ball

[00:34:11] so whenever I go to their house in high school it'd be playing uh my cousins grow into it so it'd

[00:34:16] be playing so I've seen my fair share without actually going out of my way to watch it and I just

[00:34:21] had a ton of respect for for that series and you know everything they've done uh I

[00:34:27] I

[00:34:29] it was just so nuts how everybody just was so into it and I felt it got to a point where I felt like

[00:34:37] it was too late so I didn't even try to ever get into it but um one thing that um

[00:34:45] I recently did buy some dragon ball mangoes to get into someone like the original old ones

[00:34:51] I found it awesome books shout out to awesome books awesome texas

[00:34:56] I gotta get into those eventually but it's no secret that everybody loved dragon balls so

[00:35:02] the art everybody's art is influenced in one way or another mine I have some you know

[00:35:08] anime influences uh in my stuff as well whether I you know whether there's conscious or

[00:35:14] subconscious you know and uh even though I was not a fan I knew who the

[00:35:21] cure to be honest so when I heard that guy died you know it that wasn't that was a big deal

[00:35:27] for sure oh for sure for sure so breaking breaking new tada tada tada tada

[00:35:33] we have a new challenger has appeared

[00:35:38] and I was in another uh multiverse somewhere

[00:35:50] but he's back everybody welcome professor thank you well since you jumped in the middle of our

[00:35:56] a curatorial conversation we just talked about defenses which will have you chime in here of course

[00:36:02] but since you just joined in professor people that are watching listening uh give us a breakdown

[00:36:10] who are you what are you doing what are you doing here okay yeah what am I doing here uh

[00:36:19] who is this guy yes this guy um interlooper uh so yeah professor latin ex my day name would be

[00:36:30] fredrick luiz aldama and i do comics did through fences with oscar and um yeah it's like good times

[00:36:43] we just did bipop pop yeah we did we did do bipop pop I was there at a fun I was crying

[00:36:50] three days at home and i know i know when i was writing you that email i was crying

[00:36:59] so when i couldn't go i was like i can't believe i have to send this to you yeah i mean honestly

[00:37:04] and uh freddie was there um and family and stuff um but it was a whole other level of awesome

[00:37:13] that's good i'm glad everyone looked like they had so much fun and y'all if y'all ever get a chance

[00:37:18] to hit a bipop pop do it it's such a fun show it was fun we we got the chat and meet some of the

[00:37:24] creators who's fun um i got workshops yeah i did the one um uh partner forget who was it i did the

[00:37:34] one where he says turning your life into a story like uh yeah christ Gonzalez christ Gonzalez yeah

[00:37:41] get a scary oh man yeah yeah yeah um and you know it was so not only did we have like our creative

[00:37:50] industry folks are scholars young young scholars like a bunch of my students you know presenting on

[00:37:57] their work um but you know we also you know i got because i was so organized on this one and

[00:38:06] my third time with it way ahead on the train on it and we had we did really well i got us on all

[00:38:14] the calendars for austin we got picked up over 400 newspapers across the nation um and i mentioned

[00:38:21] that because all of our creators all of them i think sold out good that's the goal yeah so it was

[00:38:34] for me you know is it dream come true because it you know was everything that i wanted you know

[00:38:40] making learning like you know like you primo like you know spaces that you might not step into but

[00:38:49] that are just there so you're like i'm gonna go workshop you know my memoir i don't know what this is

[00:38:54] but i'm gonna try it out over here you got like all this cool comics stuff you have like sci-fi books

[00:39:00] and then you got panels and scholars and it's just like pool so yeah um bipop pop 2025 if you miss

[00:39:08] 2024 will be watching for you and that doors will be open cool cool cool definitely well i'm

[00:39:15] gonna jump into the defense of certain to sick but we're talking about uh passing a curatoriama

[00:39:19] go go dragon ball austin so eloquently put out there that the impact that it had even like he wasn't

[00:39:25] necessarily a fan of dragon ball but um that's our who i mean obviously big deal and i talked about

[00:39:33] it as in the Latino community we love dragon ball we love anime super computers is another one

[00:39:38] that that was a huge fan of growing up what are your thoughts on the impact to riyama had or just

[00:39:43] dragon ball in general for that the new community yeah i mean i think a lot of us can point to this

[00:39:50] here in this in the room but at our community our listeners are people the people that are watching

[00:39:54] i mean you know one thing that i think people forget is that our culture is made in and through

[00:40:03] the kind of fusion of other influences and cultures and anime that's like i mean it's it's almost

[00:40:10] like walking into you know upana de riyama you know the smells there where just like immediately

[00:40:17] takes me back to much childhood and it's the same thing with with anime with dragon ball with manga

[00:40:23] you know um part of my childhood and you know i'd love to see more and i don't know you know

[00:40:31] elia and uh and oscar can talk to this but i would love to see more our Latin ex comics creators

[00:40:39] kind of venturing into the manga you know as a part of their style in making it their own and

[00:40:46] you know doing some stuff i know it's a big part of our childhood but certainly was a big part of

[00:40:50] my childhood you know and i'm older than you all but like um and it continues to be in it grew

[00:40:55] like massively right um anime was big for me as a kid i think manga and anime become even bigger

[00:41:03] for you all you know as you were growing up yeah i mean the story's being told what do you think slice

[00:41:08] of life is such a huge fucking hit in anime and manga when why does there have to be a drug cartel

[00:41:15] involved in latino stories you know i mean like that's not slice of everybody yeah but i think that

[00:41:22] there are themes that are uniquely latino latinay that we can bring to that like you said it's a

[00:41:28] malcoma right and it's like this mosh pit of ideas and creative that we can all enjoy together

[00:41:37] you know muscle through and make it happen in party so i love that idea because i mean what is it

[00:41:43] there are i think it was it uh have you ever known this he did manga muerto he did a manga version of his

[00:41:48] stuff that's very campy very fun uh janevina you know comic he's working on manga as well

[00:41:54] so there's people out there trying to make it happen in the community so i hope that it does drive

[00:41:59] that you know elia what about you and torjama and anime and kind of just in general yeah no when i

[00:42:06] oh god i i don't remember where i was but someone like sent the tweet to me um that girl look what

[00:42:14] happened and i was like oh my god like i didn't really grow up watching dragon ball um i was on

[00:42:21] the sailor moon side of tsunami um but you knew who who goku was you knew who Vegeta was and

[00:42:27] like i consumed dragon ball z through um dragon ball abridged that was how i consumed it um but

[00:42:34] it's just it's the core of like shonen shonen was built off of dragon ball and like all the

[00:42:42] the shonen series that we watch naruto one piece they were all following the steps of akira and

[00:42:49] it just it made it monumental and the fact that it crossed the border and like or not

[00:42:55] not even like from america to you to mexico it's the other way around mexico help bring it

[00:43:02] to the states and and it's everywhere over there it's everywhere in mexico um yeah you're represented

[00:43:09] yeah like he's on thakia hasn't everything over there yeah um but no anime has also been just

[00:43:16] something i latched on to growing up and i hope like my princess atopo comic was very much manga

[00:43:22] inspired i'm such an anime weep nerd that's my nerd dumb sub yeah i love anime i love manga

[00:43:27] she's a shmii anime shmii and so just see hearing this news like someone legendary who paved the way

[00:43:36] for all these other creators that have monumentalized manga and anime pass away and young i must say

[00:43:45] is just like so it's heartbreaking but then you're like there's a legend left behind like a whole

[00:43:52] legacy left behind that will live on forever because we all consumed it in some way we are

[00:43:58] consumed things that were inspired by the work which just shows the power of a legacy and he definitely

[00:44:03] left one behind well said well said well said alia but um i think that it's great bringing it up

[00:44:10] because it is something that you know it's touched you in some way even the second and third hand right

[00:44:17] and i'm really excited for the fact that we were able to share with that there's work is still out here

[00:44:22] for everybody to enjoy for generations right that's the goal to make things so that they can make an

[00:44:27] impact and speaking of impactful let's double back a little bit so we talked about through fences

[00:44:35] with oscar we really went through the process of his artwork and the story and how he was given

[00:44:40] you know a little bit of uh not a little but pre-range right um i'm kind of how he wanted to attack it

[00:44:47] but you you wrote the stories and when we're talking about how none of these stories necessarily have

[00:44:55] a happy ending right once reading this expecting to have a turn around a turning point a happy

[00:45:02] you know fix it is but real life doesn't work that way i mean what wouldn't you do writing the stories

[00:45:09] this way or this collection of stories this way yeah um well i knew oscar was the right guy and

[00:45:16] you know because of you know the wrestling part of his life right um no i'm uh that and but of course

[00:45:24] like oscar is just genius you know creative artist you know storyteller is it just amazing um but

[00:45:35] yeah i mean some some inspired by you know stories that i heard from like cousins

[00:45:43] some inspired by young high schoolers that i knew in my one of my programs that i created to create

[00:45:53] pipelines for letty nay let next kids to go to college um i know that i didn't share this with oscar

[00:46:03] the time but he knows now that um you know the cell so is based on a story of a kid that i knew

[00:46:12] and um you know this is no joke you know this just you know we're talking about it the other day but

[00:46:19] the most vulnerable you know gay lesbian LGBTQ women children um end up being like

[00:46:33] seriously messed up in these in the space because of because of the way the politics have allowed

[00:46:44] this to become a place where people can get away with anything

[00:46:52] um the most horrific things happen and nobody's accountable we saw it with the feminicides that

[00:46:59] continue today you know they were like oh there's a serial killer you're like no this is deep in

[00:47:06] the machista culture and no one's being held accountable because the whole like system

[00:47:15] is accountable and nobody wants to pull the system down you know so yeah so you know i mean these

[00:47:23] are hard stories but there are stories there are stories of people not only that we know their

[00:47:28] story is a family that we know well and they're complicated you know oscar and i were talking about like

[00:47:37] you know alberto and others in this story i mean not only like those are people that are in our families

[00:47:46] and you know the young the you know the young cousin who's come over who's you know undocumented but

[00:47:53] who's given you know boots for christmas because you know the contractors exploiting him but he's happy

[00:48:00] because he gets boots yeah and you know the the dad we all know those dads

[00:48:09] so that's like oh my god you know so we need to tell those stories they need to be out there we

[00:48:14] also you know we want to make room for joy the stories with joy and stuff too but you know when

[00:48:19] we're doing a through fences project that's a through fences project you know and the thing is

[00:48:24] that you know we haven't been given very often we haven't been given the luxury of the the

[00:48:31] the big story when people are like why short stories i'm like well first of all they're kind

[00:48:36] they're braided like there's a lot of you know oscar put stuff in the art that pulls the

[00:48:41] different beliefs together the different stories right but also like what's you know

[00:48:49] until we are in a situation where all of our community our families our community are given

[00:48:55] the opportunities to say if you will privilege or luxury of the long stories that's how it's

[00:49:02] going to be yeah no it's and we're talking earlier and there's a thread that connects everything

[00:49:10] and it's the truth the things that we choose to either ignore or report it on you know

[00:49:19] we've all heard of somebody right but no one's ever sat down and said hey man look this

[00:49:23] this happens this happened to me and putting it in this way is consumable like we talked about

[00:49:29] I think I used the example of like male chatting like it's hard to get through some of these

[00:49:33] stories you know I even got really emotional reading one of them yeah and I say yeah you got to

[00:49:39] take your medicine here's a spoonful of this truth along with you know good art consumable

[00:49:46] in a way to tell the story so what you guys did it's fucking cool man it's amazing like I dig it

[00:49:52] I really do yeah so I really applauded you from making this happen it was a long process you know

[00:49:58] from what I was commensioned and and the fact that you guys held it together I couldn't imagine

[00:50:04] doing it yeah it was well written I think the illustrations really just helped the writing

[00:50:13] go hand in hand together they both like worked with each other so well and it felt like a book

[00:50:17] that was collaborated on perfectly to tell the best story in the best way um and yeah I'm

[00:50:24] thinking about like how how they were short stories but if they were any long I don't think

[00:50:29] they needed to be any longer at all it would perfectly you got what you needed to know and you

[00:50:34] saw what you needed to see and and it made its point and it like I talked about it earlier the

[00:50:41] one that I had to put the book down for a little bit and essentially that one as soon as I

[00:50:45] as I got to the the last uh panel I was like I need I need a break I need a break I was crying

[00:50:51] and I was really the break but that's also but it but it not because I wasn't enjoying it

[00:50:56] because it was very true and it was written and illustrated so well that I felt it I felt it in my

[00:51:03] heart and yeah so it's a great thing and definitely check it out pretty much you know go look for

[00:51:11] it like Oscar said it's available easily available something you don't have to dig for you

[00:51:15] literally for online library amazon just google it through fences definitely check it out

[00:51:22] we're going to take a quick break and round out the show here

[00:51:53] oh

[00:52:17] all right pretty much we are back and of course we have reached the point of the show where we bring

[00:52:21] up whatever we've been hyper focused on obsessing over for the week but you can do it as well

[00:52:27] but pretty much I want to start off with miss elia elia what have you been into what do you want

[00:52:33] to bring up what do you want to highlight um so I've been kind of like just watching uh I did not

[00:52:40] get to watch the Oscars live because we didn't have the cable provider but I but that's fine

[00:52:44] because all the protests and whatever I felt okay um but I've been watching some of the performances

[00:52:50] after because I love musical performances I love seeing like the musicians perform and I'm no

[00:52:55] joke been watching I'm the I'm just Ken performance on loop and really if you have a chance to watch

[00:53:01] it it's so much fun I like I was like if I this is the way I write men in comics it's can't be

[00:53:08] it's silly it's men being men um Ryan Gosling like killed I will say Billy did deserve the Oscar

[00:53:16] for best song but Ryan Gosling had the best performance at the Oscars um in terms of music um I don't

[00:53:22] know I just I've been really getting into like watching like kitschy campy stuff to kind of like

[00:53:26] get pumped for the next project I want to start working on after i'm done with Lisa Satoco and

[00:53:30] I'm just can kind of hit the nail on the head of the style that I like love uh with guys being

[00:53:36] dudes in pink and just all that but that was fun I'm also um I did finish avatar the live action

[00:53:44] and I talked about that earlier that was my other indulgement outside of my work

[00:53:49] there you go there you go there you go ask her how about you what have you been into this week

[00:53:54] would if you want to what do you want to highlight for the famous out there uh let's see so the trailer

[00:53:59] for the new crow remake came out or nice and so that got me thinking um so this past week I

[00:54:09] uh reread the pro comic which is pretty amazing if nobody's ever read it you really need to go

[00:54:16] get it um for people who don't know it started off as a comic book um I rewatched first movie

[00:54:23] it's amazing as always so all the second movie uh second movie it's pretty good it kind of

[00:54:31] poopoo's the ending and it's kind of like it's kind of almost a remake of the of the movie that came

[00:54:36] up two years before which is silly uh saw the third one it was forgettable but it's fun if you're

[00:54:43] doing long three the fourth movie is terrible terrible it's the one with uh David Boreonis terror read

[00:54:52] and uh okay eighty for a long the movie is so bad now Dennis Hopper is in it too as like a pimp

[00:55:00] uh the movie that it answers the question what if Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez

[00:55:07] made one movie only and it was so horrible that you never thought of them again like that's

[00:55:13] that's what the crow for it wow that's two names I would never think together

[00:55:19] it's trying to be like hip and cool but it's really not it's gotta rain sometime right after

[00:55:30] time for me for me after that one like there's only there's only um it can only go up from that movie so

[00:55:41] the second one doesn't have to try the the new one doesn't try to have to try too hard

[00:55:46] you know the follow-up that uh reading spider-in game more that was pretty good uh

[00:55:53] I it's one of the big Marvel crossovers and uh I don't think i'm gonna do crossovers anymore

[00:56:01] because like they're kind of like uh the side stories are very forgettable in this spider-man

[00:56:06] game whereas the main spider-man game more stories super good um so yeah that's that's me

[00:56:16] okay okay for me I have been reading this book right here

[00:56:21] mr. andama give me a copy sign not that you're right in front of us but it is really good

[00:56:28] what can be right there it's really good I want to talk about it a little bit because I didn't

[00:56:33] I know you joined this little late so i'm gonna take this moment to use to kind of talk about this

[00:56:36] really quick with you tell us what this book is what it's about and why everybody needs to read it

[00:56:43] hmm yeah thanks primo um so yeah for sure the i mean this book okay i'm just gonna say right now

[00:56:52] there's it's this weird kind of paradoxical moment if you will if you know we're seeing a lot more

[00:56:59] Latinx Latinay fiction YA middle grade but i don't know about you guys i feel like i'm reading

[00:57:05] the same stories again and again and again like i feel like we got and that's not our fault i'm

[00:57:12] not saying that's our fault it's that there are all these gatekeepers so by the time anything gets

[00:57:18] published it's already picked up you know you've got to get an agent you gotta get the agent has

[00:57:23] to sell it but by the time you get that book out in the pans of people it's starting to

[00:57:29] feel like the same story over and over again okay so mine the absolutely almost true adventures

[00:57:37] of Max Rodriguez is like the YA I like always wanted to read and that just isn't out there and i

[00:57:45] think elia you'll agree and primo freddie that like this is you know we you know it's not the whole

[00:57:53] thing about the language and the culture and the identity that stuff happens but i'm like i

[00:57:58] you know like when reading this again and again and like our YA stuff like i want max is just insane

[00:58:06] like so cool max hangs with her two like super pals every Sunday they go to mendoza's and they

[00:58:15] hang out by the spin rack and like like talk about like you know the latest x-men comic that

[00:58:22] just dropped and they like share their week and the craziness of their lives and max who was born

[00:58:29] like with this tongue that was the the thing under the tongue that was basically too too tight

[00:58:37] that they couldn't speak and it wasn't diagnosed so much later when they finally cut that little

[00:58:42] little lip in there um so max was just like all about reading and like gorging on comics and stuff

[00:58:49] and that helps max as a 14 year old navigate ninth grade you know it's like max is mama who's

[00:58:56] single and like you know throws you throws max and her older brother in the truck and they go like do

[00:59:01] these like crazy like things up in the mountains and shasta with you know you know indigenous you

[00:59:09] know like tp rituals and like the grandma grows mota and her attic to play the bills and like i

[00:59:16] mean like this is just yeah go buy it no i agree i agree and i i actually finished it today

[00:59:27] i've been reading it a little over the past week between my breaks um and i think the first

[00:59:33] thing like that hit my mind as soon as like i finished it with like i wish i had this when

[00:59:38] i was the teenager i wish i had this when i was the teenager it was so refreshing to have a story

[00:59:45] that reflected the culture that reflected the misfits but it wasn't like about that you know it was

[00:59:54] just the adventures of max or driggas and it was fun max is fun max is silly max is living life

[01:00:02] and experiencing it unapologetically i i was like i want to do a while if i'd read that when i was

[01:00:08] a teenager i may have been a little bit different now but um it was very enjoyable i immediately um

[01:00:14] i was picturing everything like uh my artistic brain was like i can store it in my mind and like

[01:00:20] just see it happen and i don't know it was so enjoyable i think everyone even if you're not

[01:00:25] teenager it's a great read it redeemed your teenage years with this book yeah for me and why i say

[01:00:32] I'm really into this right now like this is perfect this is let me slow down the fact that

[01:00:39] she puts books in her pocket i did that in high school and this size

[01:00:43] i hope you did it on purpose because it was this size because that's how i carry this thing around

[01:00:47] all week put it in my back pocket i'm reading it as i go every single spot put in my pocket come back to

[01:00:54] like i'm glad you were you literally made it this size for that because everything from the music

[01:00:59] she's into her friends it does ring to how i grew up or to someone that i knew right and the

[01:01:06] parents aren't the stereotypical lucky name like my mom or dad that you see right like that

[01:01:12] relationship and i don't want to strip it from whoever wants to read it because you should read it

[01:01:16] it most but it's not very typical language because how they're speaking is not what you typically

[01:01:24] get to read is what you hear it's natural it's a natural conversation the mixing of English and

[01:01:30] Spanish my mom would have slapped me if i was speaking spanglish like that but when you read it

[01:01:35] you're like hey this is what kids growing up are talking i mean that you know kids speak this way

[01:01:41] that's where it is and the story behind it and max yourself i really i don't want to take away from

[01:01:47] it from anybody it means to go read it but you were right you told me you're like hey man when

[01:01:52] you had it some of you like hey primo gonna blow your mind and yeah it did really did can i read one

[01:01:57] line that really like hit me in the face in a good way okay um so this is the line that like

[01:02:04] i was like this book um i'd rather know our skeletons that pretend then pretend they don't exist

[01:02:11] than pretend to be normal like everyone else which is like that's it was just like

[01:02:18] that's so true why would you want to pretend that nothing bad happened and just live that

[01:02:26] instead of acknowledge it and just be a better person that's literally how max was just like okay

[01:02:31] i did bad stuff maybe or people i've been surrounded by are but they're not bad people or we are

[01:02:36] bad people we can get we can grow i don't know that line just like i was just like wow so right

[01:02:42] but um yeah i'm so glad oh my god you you all you guys are like the best my my my ideal reader

[01:02:51] let me just say really quickly um i was you know i had a couple of really you know oscarnazes

[01:02:58] high profile agents that i respect that do really good work um in the field to grow our field and

[01:03:06] they will tell me they you know they were being honest with me they're like

[01:03:10] mom can't have porno sexy magazines she calls them sexy magazines yeah um max can't have

[01:03:17] experience a phantom boner you know blah blah take all that stuff out strip it out take this out

[01:03:23] and i'm like well then what do you have yeah there's water down recycle yeah yeah yeah yeah

[01:03:30] and i'm like sorry ain't gonna happen i'm not gonna do that i'm not gonna do that i'm not gonna

[01:03:34] judge your ground because yeah phantom boner is very much part of the gender discovery experience

[01:03:42] sorry amen here you go professor what what else did you want to bring up i know you had something

[01:03:48] real quick real quick yeah and thank you again all of you um so labyrinth's born okay this has

[01:03:54] been a crazy i had three trains leave the platform in the same couple of weeks and this is my sci-fi

[01:04:03] novel graphic novel labyrinth's born i did this with etsel and it's out i got a nice blurb from

[01:04:12] our friend uh um Alex Rivera sleep dealer um i think you can kind of see it anyway um and many

[01:04:19] other really beautiful blurbs but anyway it's it's this beautiful story about um basically how

[01:04:27] kind of older generations anyone older than 25 suffers from this mysterious disease where our

[01:04:34] bone marrow literally kind of melts and our bones deteriorate and we're like gone like the planet

[01:04:39] is left in the hands of the young people but it's not one of those divergent hunger games things

[01:04:44] it's actually a an homage a kind of um this kind of celebration of arts and sciences and humanities

[01:04:55] and plays and literature and you know everything that makes brings us joy and how the new generation

[01:05:04] can use that knowledge innovate knowledge and create something where we live in a kind of a

[01:05:11] sustainable planet now and where our social tissue is repaired so it's not your typical sci-fi

[01:05:19] uh in that it in the in the end it celebrates and has lots of joy in it and it celebrates everything

[01:05:26] that you and i and every but we've all been talking about the arts you know things that we have

[01:05:31] done music sculpture painting storytelling you know um and then of course we have like everything

[01:05:38] that comes from that like anime that we've been celebrating just now in comics and so on

[01:05:42] so yeah that's what it is it is extraordinary the artwork and this is just like insane um

[01:05:49] etsel is just you know just like yeah this is this is another one that just takes us you can see the

[01:06:00] papa um who's kind of suffering there but yeah this is a journey you will never forget you will

[01:06:09] never forget this journey labyrinth porn also available on amazon and other booksellers

[01:06:15] we look at that we have plenty plenty to pick up like you said man you have to

[01:06:20] have three books now to read okay you have books to read read and go watch the crotrailer

[01:06:28] where we the crocomic book as well then you'll get that reference you know do we part of conversation

[01:06:35] but i want to thank everybody of course for listening and of course our guest Professor Latinez

[01:06:39] Professor Damon Oscar of course at five meets before we go i wanted to give you guys a moment

[01:06:46] is there anything you want to you know promote anything but for your socials maybe where they

[01:06:50] can find you Oscar go ahead yeah so i got a couple cool things happening um let's see uh you can

[01:06:58] find me at act five meets number five at five meet on all social medias um march 30th i'm going

[01:07:06] to be at the austin bouldering project for party world rastlin uh chubby young one and

[01:07:11] pagan handle be in action it's gonna be great oh man the day after that Easter Sunday is when

[01:07:19] mash button gripti volume one open for biz drops on amazon nice another must buy yes to me great uh

[01:07:30] if you've purchased our stuff before you've purchased it in this small manga style of black and white

[01:07:35] book but this one's gonna be nice big comic book style and full color oh yeah exciting exciting stuff

[01:07:45] professor what about you is there anything else you'd like to bring a

[01:07:49] i just know we're good you know jump on jump on those trains um it's their great ride through fences the

[01:07:57] the absolutely almost true adventures of max rubrikas and laparans born um i'm professor latinez

[01:08:03] en all social media are you gonna rest now though are you gonna

[01:08:09] are you all gonna take a break uh note no rest for the wicked i understand that what about you

[01:08:16] elia anything coming up that we should discuss it's big i wish i start streaming again tomorrow friday um

[01:08:26] i've been out two weeks uh due to medical drama but um i'm slowly getting back my my next focus

[01:08:32] is getting my damn comic book that i wanted done so and texas a phenocomacon with announced

[01:08:41] oh that's right i forgot and fly i'm kind of yeah i'm kind of in charge of that huh yeah uh

[01:08:47] texas latino texas latino comacon has been announced um july 20th

[01:08:53] Dallas, Texas Latino Cultural Center please be there artist applications are open if you are an

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