[00:00:00] Que ondas, primos, primas, y primas? Welcome to my, my primos, my primos, my PIMOS Podcast My name is Freddy. My name is Kevin Garcia. My name is Elia Maria Matriz
[00:00:11] Well, this is Chikunma whenever I can make it. My Primos Podcast discusses all things fandom and pop culture from comics movies to whatever obsession we have this week, but with the Latine Latine Latine perspective
[00:00:24] Remember, we're all primos. We're all primas. We're all primos no matter what part of the world we're from We can't escape the feeling. I'm moving to Crip but who I am and what it is I'm meant to be
[00:00:45] The crowd is calling, my heart is pounding for a week dirt on my grave while I'm planning my escape I have no money and no credit get away. I'm getting on the vibe today Time's giving away, still that way, still that way before this place make a change
[00:00:59] But nothing will change, nothing will change now Too much of proving, nothing to lose I'm not giving up on hope I'm a future new to the light Now where's the other fight put up to bring me to this world Whoa, too much of proving, nothing to lose
[00:01:18] No, I'm not afraid I feel more comfortable with Latino but Latino doesn't mean that I'm a Latin and... Yeah, they're all colonization terms Just call me, just give me a fucking piece of shit and I'd rather... You know what? You're referring to me Yeah, because you're both brown
[00:01:45] What you wanted to go by but didn't match because it's you know, you're not Canadian When I was a teenager I was like, you know what? I like mestizo I'm like, I know that it has a horrible cultural history
[00:01:54] But at the same time I'm literally half, you know, Mexican and half European So I'm like, that describes me You're just like mestizo because it sounds like you're magical That's the only reason you like it
[00:02:08] See the thing is the term is so loaded and that happens to all these terms over time It's a huge certification, it literally means good, right? It means it to make better but it's not
[00:02:19] The whole point of mestizo was that you're like, well you're here in the totem pole But you're not here, but you're not here So the whole point was about defining people by basically blood quantum It's like a carrot, here you go, just you know
[00:02:33] You know how much white people like that man They love paperwork Que onda, primos primas y primas And welcome to my primos podcast My name is Freddie, with me tonight We have a full house and believe it or not
[00:02:47] The man, the myth, the legend, the man lost in the wilds Mr. Chicume is on the show for the first time in a long time Chicume has set up It's been so long, I don't know what I'm doing here I'm just here because my ears
[00:03:02] Apparently my head is somewhere in this little logo right here So I'm just making an appearance I'm just happy to get invited I'm happy to still get invites here and there Hey man, you know that's when you're a producer
[00:03:17] You know you still get a lot of credit, you know get on here But you're back, we're gonna have some fun tonight Of course with me is Mr. Kevin Garcia dot com Say what's up Kevin? What's up Kevin? Always looking that whole, Kevin Garcia Okay, that's easy
[00:03:33] What, what? It's not just, why do you start these? Somebody has to fill the hole And I just happen to be good at it Oh, I mean, wow Just, you know what? I don't want to give you, I'm not going to give you donuts
[00:03:48] Oh, you haven't seen them yet You haven't seen them handle donuts And of course another, that laughter we hear Of joy and sprinkle and spice Ms. Elia Maria Madrid We have at Spice Illustration Say what's up Elia What's up Elia You are Elia, welcome, welcome
[00:04:08] It works, you did it, you did it But tonight we're excited to have on the show We've been chatting online, friendly right here and there We're talking with Gabe And Gabe is with the band 1876 An indigenous punk rock band out of Oregon
[00:04:24] And I am super pumped to get you on the show man Because I've been dying to have him I'm so talking about music I love punk, I got a chip on my shoulder Because I'm always talking about music And everybody ignores me
[00:04:36] But finally the primos heard me out And they're like oh shit this fucking music is dope And I'm like yeah let's have them on So here we are, welcome Introduce yourself to all the primos out there What's going on, I mean nobody has
[00:04:47] Mr. Steal Your Girl Some Horses I'm from the Northern Cheyenne and Blackfeet tribe I'm the singer and guitar player Oh don't look at my weights, those are for my That's for rehab, don't worry I can I can live more than that It's only with the album
[00:05:05] But yeah I sing and play guitar in 1876 Okay thanks for coming on man I'm excited to have you on You know it's funny because Freddie mentioned That he'd been talking to this band And he says yeah it's really good
[00:05:19] He sent me a link and I'm like oh look at it later And then I opened it up and I'm like wait a minute I know this band Because I'm not big on music right But when I find music I add it to my playlist
[00:05:29] I have a small playlist It's got 114 hours of music And I'm also on tiktok a lot And a lot of my mutuals are on indigenous talk And I heard your music through that And I just I dug it So I added it to my playlist
[00:05:43] The playlist I played at school for my high school students So like yeah That's the way to do it, look at me young Yeah I just heard your music a couple weeks ago And I was like I need to add this to the playlist
[00:05:53] So I added it up right before Freddie had mentioned it That's badass Are you in Texas? Yeah I'm in Texas See I appreciate that man Because they're trying to get rid of everything down there Oh my god So just for a frame of context
[00:06:09] I'm currently in Austin which is the blue dot of Texas But I used to be in San Juan The lower Ruegan Valley Which is kind of like the blue strip of Texas So we have the little bits where we're trying to Like stop them from banning books
[00:06:21] But like we get Shouted out Yeah I mean this is how We're gonna have to tell our history It's how my people have done it for thousands Of years but I guess now we gotta start doing it again It's through music cause Man these people want to
[00:06:37] First they made us learn how to Read in their language and write in their language And now they want to take it away from us so that we can't Retell our history It's a good thing we haven't forgotten how to tell our history
[00:06:47] Not for sure man I thought I loved about your music Especially your videos man They're just so like expressive They jump out you and they I love them I wouldn't talk about some of them here in a little bit
[00:06:57] But just tell us how you just decided one day Like you know what fuck it Like this I need to start Come off the out of the dome To the page and just into the Into the world like what got you there
[00:07:09] To just start playing the music out loud and getting a band together It started almost Ten years ago That's not how long the band's been here But the journey started about Ten years ago I was at Standing Rock And Just out there protesting with those
[00:07:25] Dudes and helping out wherever I can help out And seeing all that unity And seeing just feeling that energy Because that area Like I said I'm Cheyenne so that area is Not ours but we spend Time there sometimes so it speaks To me like my blood remembers that
[00:07:41] Area so Being there and seeing all that And just the frustration of Being an Indian in America And Like That whole thing happening was just Another reminder Of like how this country Really views us how America really Views us and
[00:08:03] Not to mention just my whole life of being An Indian and like at the time I was working in a hospital and I would get all these Really ignorant questions from Doctors and nurses because They have a medical brain so they're not Their brain isn't like
[00:08:17] It's different like they just ask You like straight up questions And you're like whoa that was borderline Racist and there's nothing you can Really do about it and That's kind of my experience as an Indian in general Like most people like the amount
[00:08:31] Of racism that we deal with Is crazy Like so and it's Overlooked we're spoken over When we march we're not on TV When we are Trying to fight something we don't get the Support we've supported everybody Else we've been at every march we've been
[00:08:49] There with everybody else but it's pretty rare That people come and help us So all those things Like coming together Kind of started it I went to a really Important place To my tribe and that's I think where all of this started
[00:09:07] It was on my way to Standing Rock It's like one of the most sacred spots That my tribe holds And I didn't even know It was there I'd never seen it before And I was passing it and I was like I know this place so I stopped
[00:09:21] And I think that's when Everything just like flipped for me And then I went to Standing Rock I came home I got beat up By some cops had a gun pulled on me And that like elevated my frustration And then The long journey starts there
[00:09:37] And I had laptop after Laptop after laptop trying to get this music out And it would always crash Always crash and then eventually Like around 2018-2019 My wife gave me this computer And she was like hey I think you can do it with this It's all about support
[00:09:53] Yeah so I did it I think it was 2019 and then 2020 It came out and I really needed it then because I work on an ambulance Oh shit cool So I was just watching people drown Day after day after day and getting rednecks
[00:10:11] Yelling at me and all kinds of different Political people yelling at me Telling me this is fake This is like all that stuff More frustration More denial of what I'm actually witnessing And what I'm putting myself and my family through And having people tell me
[00:10:27] Like nah that's not real There's rednecks Important Oh man There's rednecks Important andia It's not putlandia homie It's not what it's like The minute you leave Like here in Portland There's city limits There's rednecks There's trump flags I don't want to get political
[00:10:55] It doesn't matter what side you're on I've been through it a few times That's exactly what it is There's a movement that they want To turn washington into Idaho Yeah there's the separatist movement Over there It's because The east side of washington and Oregon are
[00:11:15] Not to do things But hold on a second Gabe I wanted to say something for a second though Earlier freddy had mentioned That there's connections between The indigenous community and the latino community And my thing, as a teacher I would often talk to my students
[00:11:31] I used to teach in the brownsville where I had most of the Hispanic students Most of the Mexican students And I would always show them other cultures And like where there's overlap And it's funny hearing what you were talking about Where they're trying to take away the music
[00:11:43] Of why I'm not bilingual My dad His generation Punished in school if they spoke Spanish I still get that Absolutely My grandparents They stopped speaking Spanish at home My dad and his brothers And none of my cousins My mom's side I have Spanish-speaking cousins
[00:12:07] Because they were congratulated for learning a new thing Yeah And then you mentioned the issue with the doctors That just say stuff straight out kind of racist And it's like I know people in the black community That that's constantly something they're dealing with
[00:12:19] Every time they go to a doctor So you don't have to be from a community To understand what that community is going through There's so many parallels with everybody's thing Oh yeah for sure That's kind of the message of 1876 Like we really believe In the unity of people
[00:12:35] And especially those of us who come Who are made from this earth And we know who those people are You know who they are, I know who they are And they know who they are So people who are made from this earth We have to unite
[00:12:49] Because it's our blood that's under attack Not like Not like a You will not replace us Yeah I just mean like Our land Is attached to our blood And we have to be under attack So where we come from You guys, me Other people who are
[00:13:13] Their stories talk about them being made From the land We have to unite with each other And we have to put our stuff Aside, we have to be able to talk about some things And get past some Things because we have to unite
[00:13:27] And we as in the people I always say We had a home field advantage Like that's what 1876 is The reminder of the battle of Little Big Horn And when the northern Cheyenne The Oglaala A bunch of Lakotas Blackfeet and Arapahos came together
[00:13:43] They were all tribes who didn't get along But they all came together for one common goal And that common goal was To defend their home and defeat The US military And they did it because they worked together They had a common goal and they supported each other
[00:13:57] And they had the home field advantage So that's true for you guys That's true for me We have to be able to like You know I'm glad you're going that up Go ahead No, but in the Efforts of combating that ignorance Because I will say this
[00:14:17] Like within the Latino community We don't know much about y'all There's not a lot of overlap Even though me and Freddie You always say like hey don't let them tell you You're not indigenous And let them The Americas right is one whole fucking Continent But
[00:14:37] In efforts of combating that ignorance If you don't do you mind sharing What you were sharing with us earlier Because I see you immediately Referred to yourself as Indian And in my head I'm like It's like an alarm goes off and it's like Like weren't we like fighting
[00:14:53] Wasn't the NFL getting in trouble Because of the redskins And I don't know what to say Big difference You yourself you're referring to yourself As Indian so You're even explaining So if you don't mind kind of educating us Once more I'll say Indian
[00:15:13] Indian is kind of like a slang And for me So it's N-D-N And for me Indian is short for indigenous N-D-N-G-E-N-O-U-S If you're indigenous There's no Okay, but wait I want to pause real quick that you are using that And that's key there
[00:15:35] I think it gets really kind of weird when I see Like why people doing that They're like yeah I support the N-D-N community And I'm like that's not really your phrase Like I get it, it's good But not your phrase I have a friend
[00:15:49] I have a friend of a friend Who is one of those people that claims to be A hierarchy princess or something And so she kept using these terms online And then when she got trouble for it She goes to her friends of color and says defend me
[00:16:01] And they're like no we're not doing that Yeah We tried, that's the thing Those kind of people will be like how can no one speak enough for me Like well I told you in private Hey you shouldn't Or you can tell by my face Or whatever Yeah exactly
[00:16:19] Or you say it and you're dismissive of it And that's like Our way It seems like something all people of color do It's our way Of telling you something Without being like in your face Like we don't have to be like Hey you shouldn't say that
[00:16:37] It's like a face So when you say in It means indigenous For indigenous not N-D-N For me that's what it is And I know a lot of people They don't like that I say Indian Because they're like They sometimes give me attitude about it
[00:16:55] And then like I'll say Indian And they'll be like that's funny you still call yourself Indian And I'm like well I'm not saying that I'm saying Indian But yeah for me People from other countries like Latino America We get people always saying oh
[00:17:09] I grew up in the US I grew up in California And then I'll give my cousin here or my mom My mom will tell me About being Salvadoran enough And I'm like you brought me I mean I'm passing Right that's the whole thing And my cousin right there
[00:17:27] My blood cousin And my sister has his Complexion but yeah And I always get there Like we don't look salvy You're as white as The underbelly of a shark They always tell them that And it doesn't help that I'm bald So I mean if I have sunglasses
[00:17:49] I can be like pit bull I can tell by your nose though I can tell by your nose where you're from One of my really good friends Growing up in high school He's also named Gabe He's also Salvadoran There he go man great people right Yeah dude
[00:18:07] His mom was so sweet Oh my god Seriously I only recently got to have those They're so good Yeah fuck You live in Austin you should come over To my mama Dude you have food I don't want the cats He was light skin though
[00:18:31] He was a light skin dude And his brothers were darker So I feel like this is just always one I'm that one too I'm like the lightest So Indian In terms of The hierarchy You were talking about generational names Yeah Yeah so it kind of goes generationally
[00:18:55] Like in my opinion It's all opinion based In my opinion the most respectable One that you'll get the least amount Of pushback is indigenous And then below that Is Native American and then below that Is Indian And my grandparents Like they went by Indian Because our treaties
[00:19:17] They all say Indian that's the thing is We can't stop referring to ourselves as Indians as American Indians until We're able to fix and Make a read them or whatever it's called Because the minute I stop saying The minute I say no I'm not an American Indian
[00:19:31] All of our That's it then if you're not an American Indian Then we don't have any We have an actual Department of the United States Government Of our own Indian affairs There is an actual department Of the US government whose whole job it is
[00:19:47] Is just to monitor indigenous people Yeah they're the ones that give us Our tribal IDs and you know who oversees Them Is the same entity that oversees Fish and Wildlife Which are the PIs All kinds of questions They're the ones Who tag coyotes And wolves and deer
[00:20:09] And fish and say like oh yeah We got too many fish we got too many elk over here Go get rid of them We got too many Indians over here Uh huh and they track us Just like their track You know it's funny I'm checking their website
[00:20:23] Their website looks pretty current now But I remember 20 years ago I looked at their website And it looked like it was like an early 90s Like they just had this little cheap thing Like they have a budget No good
[00:20:35] But you know what's funny is that we're talking about Like how um you know Whether or not somebody should say it or not For example me I do a lot of research In the Mesoamerican history looking into The culture civilizations that are gone
[00:20:47] Now the people are still around The languages are here, the people are here A lot of the beliefs are here But the actual civilizations have been destroyed Right but no matter how much I research that No matter how much I say that is technically part of my
[00:20:59] Ancestry I'm not going to call myself Way too white for that Yeah it's hard man It's hard I've got a friend Say what? You still know what a good cica tastes like That's true You know how to fill some holes Apparently so
[00:21:19] We know how to fill them home Give yourself some credit man Give yourself some credit Mr. Kevin Garcia But you know moving a little bit along Cause this is just fascinating and I love it And it kind of makes sense To listen to your music man
[00:21:33] For example I'm going to bring up Cause we're going to play a little bit of the music So that people can listen to it on the show But don't give a fuck It's like my fucking go to For you guys I don't give a fuck What is it?
[00:21:49] No don't give a fuck DGO episode Like can you talk about that first Man when you come on For someone that's a fan Cause I can only play instruments I'm a fan of music And I can listen to the lyrics and the composition And everything you're spouting off
[00:22:07] How it hits me man To the fact that like That you said it before You've been ignored Everybody's being killed There's no one watching over you As we talk about the hospitals You talk about marches all these things And like don't give a fuck
[00:22:25] I can appreciate that man Because Latinos have felt that shit too You know and like Whenever we talked about how we need to Support each other in the Latino community Right in the Latinx community I'm a big believer in like
[00:22:39] We need to support on all sides right from all Blocks right cause we are Like you said yourself If we got the african-american community The latino latinx community The indian community All of us joining up like you said man We're in different conversation right in the U.S.
[00:22:55] Especially right worldwide Who knows but talk about don't give a fuck Man cause we're gonna play that here For the listeners but Talk about it For the record I'm the only guy here that doesn't Cuss on the show Cause I'm a teacher and a public speaker
[00:23:11] But it's a good song I just can't say the name of it We'll say it for you More than enough We affectionately call it digaaf So you can say that There you go So that we can't say it Perfect You can say digaaf Yeah so that song
[00:23:31] I mean it was almost It's almost stream of consciousness A little bit it was just like It's just a lot of things that I'm frustrated about As an indian person and I think it's It's something that People don't know That we feel like You have An entire genre
[00:23:51] For Like we all know We Have heard through music The black experience in America Via hip hop NWA public enemy Those are the Before that you know You know like blues Yeah but hip hop I feel like Was really just in your face about it Was really like
[00:24:19] Like ice cube Saying like this is what we're reporting What we see It wasn't just in your face but it was getting carried by Like mainstream outlets The word was getting out there Yeah and so for Indians We don't have that We're like 1% of the population
[00:24:39] In our own country So we don't have a lot of ears tilted at us We don't have a lot of opportunity To speak freely And like Indian people We don't get a second chance We barely get a first chance So I can't go on
[00:24:55] In a job or something I can't just speak my mind the way other people can I can't just say what it is That I want to say I have to figure out how to Navigate what it is that I'm trying to say
[00:25:07] Or I have to find a way to navigate If it's even important to say If it's worth putting my job at risk Putting my life at risk I can't look police officers in the eye Because they don't like my They don't like our eyes Freak them out
[00:25:23] Who knows why We're not allowed to look police officers in the eye And we're not allowed to do a lot of things That people don't know we're not allowed to do Like So that's kind of where that song came from And being Indian isn't always just
[00:25:37] Like it's not always the worst thing I love being Indian I would never want to be something else I love who I am I love what I was built to be But I'm also not going to be quiet about some of the Shit parts you know
[00:25:53] Like I'm not going to hold my tongue Because it's going to make other people uncomfortable So Basically I just wanted to say What was on my mind and there's a lot of All of that is true All the things that I'm talking about are absolutely true
[00:26:07] And it's solely my experience It's not the experience of all Indians I know that there's parts in there where I say We Where in the bridge it breaks down Those are Multiple experiences but Talking about The feeling of Like I say 300 million people waiting for me
[00:26:27] To lose my grip on the control that I've salvaged So they can lock me in the cages and the pages Of history books And label me a savage That's how I feel If you talk shit to me or you're Deliberately doing something wrong to me
[00:26:41] I don't get to just snap the way a lot of other people in this country do Because then Immediately they're like I knew it I knew this fucking Indian was going to I knew he was a savage They're all like this So we have to really really
[00:26:57] Really control our tempers Or not even our tempers We don't get to act We don't have the freedom to act the way That other people do So we have to be Some of us are more mindful of it Because when you grow up in a community
[00:27:13] Like I grew up in the city I'm usually the first Indian People have met And That's not true but I'm the first one that they recognize Is being a Native American So I have to I represent all Native Americans to them Whether I accept it or not
[00:27:31] Whether I like it or not, that's just human behavior I mean that's very common because I myself like I've traveled for work a lot Throughout the Midwest And then my dad was a trucker So he would go out throughout the 48 And I do remember always
[00:27:47] Not that anybody was imposing it on me But I did feel like I need to behave well in front of white people So that they see that Other people like me are not You know, some good for nothing Whatever And that was me when I was young
[00:28:05] I don't do that anymore But I kind of get what you're saying In terms of having to Feel like you're representing something So that the next person That might be my color and might not have papers Doesn't get looked upon
[00:28:19] It's like, you know what? Let me open your door lady Let me see how to be off Asafer Yeah, yeah That's the other thing too about that song The point of it was like You guys as Latinx people Do you identify at all with that song?
[00:28:35] Do you hear anything in there that you can identify with? Yeah Yeah It was the same It was meant for that It was meant for All communities who can hear it But specifically your community The black community and my community
[00:28:53] Because when I listened to hip hop as a kid I would hear them talk about things that I knew What they were talking about I felt it because I'm not black No, but I'm Indian and we're pretty similar So they would talk about certain things
[00:29:07] That they were witnessing or experiencing And I'm like, yeah, I know that experience So I was trying to give it back I'm trying to The people who get it, the people who understand it The people who can find themselves in that song That's who this song is for
[00:29:21] It's for you, it's for whoever hears it And they're like, yeah, that's us We're gonna listen to the song We'll catch you back after the song break Stay tuned So they can love me They can't just love baby or savage
[00:30:08] I'm not doing a stereo type for my life And their society is trying to erase me Or simultaneously force me to forthage it I'm a walking rabbit But the fucking target on my back I wouldn't rip or never have the chance The problem from the tune it is
[00:30:24] That everybody else has After the storm of the land I'm broke, I'm struck I'll die and wait till it's pressed down But you can't let your seed melt I'm fucking dead, I'm with you up Ready to take your good day, girl That was the big off
[00:30:59] Don't give a fuck For those that can say it Not Mr. Garcia there But definitely awesome song That's like my go-to, go-to, go-to And we will remain of course We'll maybe talk about that in a minute Because I love the video
[00:31:15] I love that fucking video man, so good But one thing to ask, Aelia What was the song that you enjoyed The former right here in front of you To just talk about it What was the song that really hit you the right way?
[00:31:27] No, it's the same one, the Gaff man I think I played it on loop so many times And I added it to my rage playlist Like I said, the song itself Gave me So many chills And like There were things, it's like you said
[00:31:43] There are things we can relate to on that level As Just Latine people as well It's just like, god damn you know this is Yes, this is happening This is still happening today And we still have to Scream about it And of course like
[00:32:01] Indigenous people they're screaming so loud Why are we not screaming with them? You know as loud as we could be No, I just like I felt the song Like in my veins, it was really great I am curious 1876 What is the significance of this number? 100 years later Yeah
[00:32:23] It's the It's the battle of Little Big Horn When they're Northern Cheyenne, the Ogla The Blackfeet Like I said, a bunch of Lakotas A Rapa-Hose all came together And fought the 7th Cavalry to defend their life And their way of land And their way of life
[00:32:41] To defend it And they succeeded In defeating the military And then Yeah It was just, it was an act of unity An act of Common Common ground and common goals And an act of support We all supported each other Some of the Chiefs
[00:33:05] You can't say their names but the Chiefs had Their visions on my land And they came to us for help And we said yeah And We won Hell yeah So it's 1876 is less about the Killing and defeat of the Cavalry And the killing of Custer
[00:33:29] And more about the reminder That we as Indian people And we as people from this earth Made from the ground Whose stories say you come from this ground Not ground over that way This ground That we gotta stick together And we gotta support each other
[00:33:47] And be there for each other And we will succeed if we do that Wow, no I'm not for sure I wanna talk about the album cover Cause all your pow wow punk rock right One two and three they're all women
[00:33:59] And the last one that I love has a Woman wearing earrings that say Chingona And I was like fuck yeah That's literally telling the left handed community Like we're fucking united here So let's talk about the albums and who the women are
[00:34:11] Yeah the first EP is my mom So Of course like my mom Gave me a Voice she's black feet And if anybody out there Hearing this is black feet and if you Don't know anything about black feet people If you have a black feet mother You're black feet
[00:34:31] Black feet mothers only raise black feet Children even though my dad is Cheyenne And I'm enrolled Cheyenne And she instilled the resilience The specific resilience That black feet people have in me She gave me my voice She breathed there into me
[00:34:47] And taught me how to use my voice So because of that I just wanted to honor my mom The only way that I could And then the second one is My cousin My cousin Nina she comes from the Cheyenne side She's Cheyenne and Crow But
[00:35:03] She gave me all of these people All these women on my EPs have all given me gifts that I cannot return things that I can't give back
[00:35:11] And so I'm just trying to show them my appreciation and honor them the best way that I know how but Nina gave me a gift that will always it's connected me to something in a way that nobody can take from me and
[00:35:26] I just wanted to show my appreciation for Nina because what she gave me the gift that she gave me is Huge and then the third one is my wife. She's a Mexican. She comes from Manzanillo and Yeah, she She gave me the computer
[00:35:45] To to be able to record all this. She's supported me. She sat there with me when all my all my laptops crashed she She's cons cons sold can Yeah, she's like she's been there with me through all the hard times
[00:36:03] Yeah, yeah, so she's been there and her family's been really supportive of me there We got our stickers are running around Colima and make Manzanillo so
[00:36:15] Yeah, so I just I just want to show my appreciation for her because I literally could not do any of this without them They're there. I have these I call it my home Council Yeah, I talked to them and I got one more cousin essay those four women
[00:36:35] I talked to constantly because my brain I have the brain that I have and My experience of what my traditions have taught me are women Think beyond what I can think myself
[00:36:49] So these are women that I trust these are women that I know who have my best interest in Mind and so I go to them for advice quite a bit because I have the brain that I have and sometimes fists are easier
[00:37:03] Yeah, it's easier to get me get into a fucking fist fight than figure shit out. Oh, yeah for sure. Yeah Because they love you right to love us and right I'm curious man punk right
[00:37:14] I'm gonna say a term that most people that are involved in music hate to hear is the word the scene, right? Yeah, so like Punk music though, right?
[00:37:23] It has different shapes different forms because not just because you guys just a certain way or play a certain rhythm or certain speed Makes you punk. It's all it's a message and it's an attitude, right?
[00:37:33] I've watched plenty of punk bands that use nothing but synthesizers and I fucking love it and I like Was it always punk for you? Was it always this this this genre or that the was it the rap you talked about earlier that
[00:37:45] Did you dabble in that at all or is it just just went towards this route? I've never been a rapper. I don't feel like I love hip-hop I love hip-hop so much like they're there the three musics that I listened to growing up was powwow music
[00:38:00] Punk rock and hip-hop. So of course, they're gonna bleed their way through But the thing that I loved about punk rock was the aggression They're just like the the aggression and the unity at shows like when you're in the pit
[00:38:14] They say like if you if you if you go down if you go down the pit you pick them up So yeah, yeah Place one of the same places much paid right exactly everybody everybody's there and there's actually for me
[00:38:28] there was actually a similarity between punk rock and and Traditional music and powwow music which is that like so I grew up sweating and going to ceremonies and all that stuff Cheyenne way and I was My my schedule was like I would had school and then I
[00:38:47] Would sweat on Sundays and Fridays and then I had Band practice on Wednesday, and then I would go to shows Friday and Saturday So what that ends up looking like is I'm in a sweat singing these songs
[00:39:02] With my people I'm literally shoulder-to-shoulder with my people singing these songs We're all singing the same song We're all here for the same reason and then I immediately go to show and I'm shoulder-to-shoulder was my people with punk rockers
[00:39:16] Singing the same song looking at the dudes on stage who are singing it back to us And we're singing it to them and we're all here for the same reason and in the sweat
[00:39:24] If you go down we're there to take care of you and a pit if you go down We're there to take care of you so they just started like seeming like the same thing and then like with hip hop
[00:39:33] The thing that I loved about hip hop was what punk rock was missing for me. I couldn't identify with these white guys either complaining about their girlfriends or Because it's like such aggressive music and you're like really this is you're this angry about a girl like gold
[00:39:51] Yeah, or or they're complaining about a system that was that was Taylor made for them They all that so they're saying how this system failed them This system was made for you by you Handwritten by your people you fucked up and you're complaining to me in Indian
[00:40:10] You want to tell me that this is unfair? So then hip hop was the part that was missing for me in punk rock because Hip hop and punk rock they both are very they both come from truth both of them and
[00:40:25] They come from the same area of the United States and they made their way over here But originally coming out of Brooklyn punk rock and hip hop both came from Brooklyn and they both started about speaking truth So Yeah, so I would hear
[00:40:42] Punk rock. I'd be like well, that's sure that's their truth but I don't identify with that and I would hear the frustration and and they're like irritation and and Feeling like you're not seeing in hip hop and I'd be like that's I get that I understand that
[00:40:58] You know what I mean? So I really like I love music in general But those three musics like those are the things that I really identified with No, man for sure. I've never been a rapper. It's not not my thing. I don't I don't feel like it's
[00:41:13] Don't feel like you said you don't you mean let me ask you this question man I don't know another and this is just me kind of I know you maybe another band through my streams that pop up I don't know any other
[00:41:25] Ndn, you know punk or hardcore or anything like that It just doesn't like you said it just didn't exist Yeah, and we talk about our presentation here, right everything from like comic books movies We have people here. Aalia. She has she writes her comics
[00:41:40] So does Kevin myself and we always talk about seeing ourselves Seeing our community in this in the work that we do man so what you're doing is kind of like it's trailblazing in a way
[00:41:50] You know if you think about it and it's just kind of no pun intended beating the drum of like hey We're fucking here. We've always been here right you say yourself in your lyrics and
[00:42:00] What I just I just really dig the energy and I wanted to ask that because Punk isn't an energy like you said it's an aggression It's a way to get out there and just put your message to where you got to hear it
[00:42:11] Because you're gonna hear it because I'm nice and loud and me and she cool man years ago when we started this show We said that same that same example. We said, you know, hey life's a mosh pit
[00:42:20] But there's room for everybody. Yeah, like you can you can hustle you can you can bruise each other around But you're always gonna be able to move and pick each other up Yeah, especially in the Latino community because there's always that
[00:42:32] Everything from colorism to you know, are you brown? Are you Mexican enough? You don't speak Spanish or no sabo kid. You're this like there's always that that fight And so what you're doing man
[00:42:44] Bringing and I've seen you play with like a lot of the like am I wrong? Did you play with inspector or did I imagine that I think they're a Spanish scob and And I think I saw you guys on a bill with them
[00:42:55] I don't think so we played with the ocho calacas just like oh they play with inspector. Yeah, I'm sorry Yeah, I'll tell us inspector because I used to watch back in South Central and Tweety
[00:43:05] They used to do a lot of shows a lot of hardcore shows a Spanish car show like getting stress Would play there a lot and we would grow up with that music and so we would love to see oh look
[00:43:15] Yeah, fuck it sublime was the biggest thing in the world at one point and we're like oh shit Like he speaks Spanish. Maybe something there, you know, but then you start seeing your people brown people do back our shows I never saw of the
[00:43:28] Until I saw a band they did hardcore and hardcore is different than punk. It's a different movement different energy I mean I had a band that I was in love with that nobody knows about it died off
[00:43:37] What have you they were called pk2 in Spanish are called peccados, right? And it was a dope and and I never saw somebody like me walk on stage go like hey We're gonna sing some songs and now I'm not gonna go
[00:43:55] Yes, this is the fucking energy that I want so I love that you're doing that for your community And I want to say an extension our community, you know to bring you bring us in
[00:44:05] Kevin what about you man? What other song maybe we want to bring up or so the song that that turned me on to your stuff was tribes and tribulations
[00:44:18] Just dug the vibe I like the sound I immediately added it to my playlist like I said so students are gonna hear it on repeat at some point But but one thing that I wanted to talk to you guys
[00:44:28] One thing I find interesting is we keep talking about the parallels between like Latina and the indigenous populations I was talking, you know to the guys before the show that I
[00:44:40] Am old enough that I remember a lot of Mexicans coming to the Mexican Americans saying like no no I'm spanish. I wanted to reset spanish And if you claim that they were indigenous at all they would be offended no matter what they look like
[00:44:51] They could be you know like like really dark skin or whatever it doesn't matter They like no I'm 100% spanish and now Now I'm seeing more and more young people generations coming up a lot of people that are like no
[00:45:03] I am indigenous to I am I am what's they call reconnecting Reconnecting indigenous and so more and more people are like offended by that That colonial past and they're like look it wasn't a choice. You know they came over here and I just I just
[00:45:22] It's interesting to me seeing that now and being able to see the parallels like it makes it It feels good to have those parallels there because it allows people to see it But also I
[00:45:33] I appreciate that more people are trying to reconnect with that past even if it's even if it's distant, you know Yeah, for sure. Uh, I I definitely experienced that like with uh, Mexico specifically like, um I remember as a kid like Mexicans and Indians
[00:45:49] They didn't get along at all And I don't know I was too young So to know why that was so I can only speculate Looking backwards, you know, but I just remember like I went to a mostly black in a mexican school. So like
[00:46:06] They didn't the mexicans didn't like me that much But I I saw a lot in a culture that was similar to mine And then I saw a lot in black culture that was similar to mine No, the one culture that I never really I could
[00:46:17] See myself in was white culture because I just they're just so different than us But mexicans are the ones that I always like They were so similar to indians But it's because we're similar people but but back in those days like
[00:46:34] I don't know they they just didn't get along and like I said I can probably figure it out looking backwards. Why? But today what's really cool is our powwows and stuff like we see, uh, masica dancers and uh, like doing a dance or whatever it's called and
[00:46:52] That kind of stuff, but when I go to mexico It's it's different man. Like yeah It's it's changing though. It's changing. There's like a growing movement in mexico of more and more people that are like Reconnecting with that past. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah
[00:47:05] I mean, mexico has done some really really cool things to keep the culture alive As far as like the astec culture anyway because astecas were like We're pretty Well, they were the dominant One of our previous guests that he wrote that rambola and he kind of
[00:47:24] Kind of bring everything together and overlapping and kind of exposing ourselves to Yeah, Henry barajas. He he his grandfather rather Fought to get their nation recognized by the u.s. Government Uh, I think yaki in Mexico in new mexico
[00:47:41] So he he was part of that group that was fighting for that in the 70s and 80s Yeah, so yeah, like I said, it's just an increasing awareness that I think It's helping everybody, you know
[00:47:53] It's helping bring attention to indigenous populations and it's helping, you know, uh, latin a populations learn more about where they come from So exactly. Yeah, what's cool is like going to mexico and finding people down there who still who still practice They're their indigenous culture and they're indigenous
[00:48:11] There's a lot of areas of mexico that still do. Yeah, and and they're like they'll come to me Yeah, they'll come to me and they'll be like They call me indio because that's like just what they say down there But they'll ask me are you are you
[00:48:25] Indio and I'll be like yeah from up there and they're like, well it's uh and But then they'll like show me they'll they'll hand me some medicines or things like that and they're so like some of what they do down there So similar to us
[00:48:38] It's so cool to just see if you're home like like a wait a home away from home Like is it feel comfortable? Then they're not like a stranger in a strange land, you know, it's like is there a connection that makes you comfortable there uh
[00:48:52] I mean in mexico specifically my connection is my my in-laws and my family down there like I love them all so much Like they're they take care of me when i'm there. So how how could I not?
[00:49:02] Feel that you know, but uh, but to see indigenous people practicing their ways down there it's It's a little It's cool to recognize for me, but coming before I come from i'm like all right. Well, what kind of stuff are you putting on me?
[00:49:17] Like, you know what I mean? I treat it like the same way that I treat other tribes. I go to other trials and they start putting smoke on me I'm like, all right. Come on man. I'm what are you doing? Yeah
[00:49:28] Okay. Yeah, I'm just cautious. I like I respect it But I get cautious because I'm like, okay. Well, what's happening here and especially when it's like a language I don't understand. Yeah well enough Yeah, but for the most part. I mean, it's it's really cool
[00:49:42] To see it's exciting to see for me I and I do I do feel a sense of like You get me because I i'm a traditionalist. I grew up traditional So when I see a traditionalist anywhere in the world, but specifically in mexico
[00:49:57] I'm just like, yeah, we we understand each other like we're because even even within our community Like oh like when diello's morto comes around that's when it's cool, right? Like as soon as all colorful and trendy and you go to the supermarket and there's like a cacerola with
[00:50:14] You know But those kinds of things man, that's what's cool. That's what I think is really dope about mexico It's different from america Is um, like clearly we went different routes But mexico has been able to keep their old traditions alive
[00:50:29] They they as teca ones anyway by things like um Like the flag has uh The serpent god on it and has the story of why like you just look at the mexican flag and you you know You can tell the story of why
[00:50:46] That like how mexico came to be in mexico city Kevin Garcia wrote a book about that i mean, there's nia wrote something about that calm book but uh, but yeah exactly and and that's what makes it interesting is that like you said they went different routes
[00:51:03] In the u.s. It was extermination and in in mexico. It was assimilation But regardless the uh, subjugation and subjugation and regardless the uh, the indigenous people Held out and and stayed behind either way. We're both here
[00:51:18] Exactly. Hey, we're here man. By the way, I love that you you do this through music. I was gonna ask you What do you think? Do you know the band red bone from the 60s and 70s? Yeah
[00:51:27] Yeah, I've always been a big fan and and of course they got a big resurgence because of guardians of the galaxy And and uh, that was a big thing for them too was talking about indigenous stuff back then, you know
[00:51:37] So I I just it would be cool to see that kind of a A push in popularity about from native music today, right? Yeah, what's cool? Um about today's age Uh compared to those days is like we're independent and I'm able to get on podcasts like this and
[00:51:56] All my media has been independent. I've done all of it Basically myself So uh back in those days it was like like red bone and exit. They were what A black producer thought white people would want basically, you know what I mean so
[00:52:14] You would you like they weren't necessarily in control of their own image or their own They definitely marched like they were they were aimed dudes, but they they were I don't I don't know how to explain it without sound. They were they were pop
[00:52:30] They were pop and they were also like dressed up to me more than I mean I mean, it's like Bob Marley. He had to give up something to then kind of bring get popular here It was a decade you're in because that's what I was gonna say
[00:52:45] Everybody yeah, that's true. Yeah. Yeah. So this day and age I can say what I what I want Nobody is controlling what I say nobody there's no there's no Bank above me who's like well you can't say that because we have
[00:53:01] This uh, whatever they're called like I don't even know the word. That's how independent we are Yeah This fucking plan or this model or some shit, right? Yeah. Yeah playing investor. That's what it was. That's the word We have like this this investor
[00:53:19] Shareholder yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. Do you guys care if I take this off? I don't want to go I'm gonna show off for those who are listening only to the audio. He is showing off his guns my white arm Look at those arms
[00:53:34] Nah, man. Relax man. It's all good. It's 90 degrees here in Portland. I'm in a brick building and I have no ac So I'm just yeah get comfort Get comfortable. I mean like Kevin Garcia never wears pants. So we don't know, you know
[00:53:49] There you go. This seems the way to do it. You're at home. Shit, you know your place Um, I would be a miss. I still want to I want to talk about we will remain because I fucking love the song
[00:53:57] And I love the video that kind of took her to the top It's like it's a terminator spoof and I fucking love it You come up with that idea. How did that come about? Uh, it was actually this guy named Tyler Trotman. He's become a friend
[00:54:10] But uh, he just reached out and it was his idea And he was like, um, he reached out on ig and he's like, hey, I have this idea I don't know if you guys would be cool with it. So I he sent me the like, um
[00:54:23] The treatment and I was reading over it and I sent it to my cousin and my my wife and my mom And they were like, they gave it their thumbs up. So I was like, I'll bring it to the band and see what they think
[00:54:35] And the band was all about it. So, uh, Yeah, it was Tyler's idea Um, I mean for those that haven't why we're gonna play it here as well for they can they can they can watch you here at the end
[00:54:45] But for those that don't know, what's the pitch that you got? Like what was the pitch that got you hooked for that song? Uh, Tyler, he said he had an idea called terminative and it was uh, it was like
[00:54:56] A terminate a terminator coming back in different forms of People that we have fought against or oppressors or anything like that Uh, coming to finish off the natives Uh from the future because they've taken back control in the in the future so, uh, yeah, his idea was
[00:55:18] Was was that and that we were like the catalyst of that I guess and it was supposed to be like a B movie Like it was supposed to look shitty and
[00:55:27] Hey, man, it's really well done man. Like yeah, it looks like you had a low budget, but you used it perfectly We had zero budget. It was I
[00:55:42] Tyler the creator there you go. No, I mean I dig that man. I mean, I'm really happy that we got to chat and um I just want to you know, usually we at the end here
[00:55:52] We kind of bring up the things that we've kind of been into recently be it music be it Film be it would have you we kind of roll on the table, but um, you know
[00:56:01] I really want the people talk to listening to just go look for 1876 on all the socials You know go give gable follow Mr. Still your girls and horses. I love your social media presence man. It's a blast always fun when I see your videos
[00:56:14] Um, you know Kevin Kevin mentioned earlier, you know, there's a lot of uh, we even privately we get a lot of like pushback from like tick tock and instagram and always like shadow bands and all this bullshit, you know um, what has been your experience with like the
[00:56:29] How things have changed and how important that social media has become I mean, what have you run into if anything? I'm assuming there has been right Yeah, there's there's definitely been some run-ins. Um, I Haven't had some of the big ones that usually happens to ending creators yet
[00:56:47] But we definitely been shadow band. We've been regular band Back in the day, uh, we get a lot of Yeah, yeah, we uh We get a lot of we were getting a lot of hate for a while like the the online
[00:57:03] I mean that's kind of what the internet is Yeah, but like the punk the overall punk community online was not into us and they're just like Like just Like all the worst things that you could say about an Indian person
[00:57:21] That's what they were saying to us and it wasn't just white people It was it hasn't the hate hasn't just come from white people. It's also come from most The other dominant every every group will do that, you know, yeah, but um
[00:57:37] But that's kind of subsided until probably now now that I said it out loud. It's gonna Don't think no man. No man. Look because the community is growing our goal is to grow the community, right?
[00:57:47] And like you said, like just join man have these conversations. These are not I'm done with being afraid of talking about shit like they like almost in the language All right, like let's just fucking have these conversations where we're all primos. That's the conversation
[00:58:00] We're having we're all related and somewhere all connected. We're all cousins Like let's talk about this, you know, if you can't talk with your cousins about it How the fuck are you gonna get anything done with anybody else, right? Yeah
[00:58:10] But I saw one that asked about your the community because I want people to go follow 1876, uh, you know, definitely Um before we get into our our stuff this week, uh, but definitely people give them a shout
[00:58:23] Go talk to him. He's really responsive really responsive as you can tell But yeah, man, definitely definitely definitely, um before we get into our our recommendations, what have you Do you have any shows coming up anything that people could look out for?
[00:58:37] That way we can put that out there. We'll put of course share it Because by the time this airs it would be the 24th So anything after the 24th, uh in in Oregon or if you're ever gonna make it outside of uh outside of Oregon
[00:58:52] That'd be fun too, man Yeah, yeah, uh, we Um, we got a show coming up here in portland, uh at the twilight. It's a it's a um, it's the punk and drubblic after party
[00:59:05] It's a with cheshy and a special special guest. We're not allowed to say who they are, but It's 1876. It's a big one out. Well, we're there, but we're not special. We're just we're just regular And then We're special, uh, yes, I'll take There you go
[00:59:24] And then July 5th, we're gonna be in Denver for punk rock saves lives And July 6th, we are going to be in Cincinnati Very tired, but ready. We're gonna play Yeah No We're playing the rock and roll the north side rock and roll carnival there and then
[00:59:49] We have a canadian tour coming up Um, yeah, we're busy That's good, man. That's good, man. Definitely stay tuned to the socials for that But uh, you know since we're talking game
[01:00:01] What's a band or something that you just kind of been into that maybe we should know about That you can recommend for the brimoz after as well, of course 1876 but somebody that needs some attention that you see like man, these guys are great
[01:00:12] Check it out or something that will hit a nerve here. You know, you never know Yeah, there's a a band that we play with here in Portland. Um, We just played with them, but they're a latin scottcore band They're called uh los mal hablados
[01:00:27] So, um, probably check them out if you like latin scottcore They're really good. Uh, los acuatos. We just played with them as well The lead singer is from el Salvador Uh, there we go. There you go. There's that show man, you know, get some more savadorians on you
[01:00:46] Yeah, yeah, yeah Um, and then if you're in portland and you hear this or you're in the portland area um Mother Teresa, she's el Salvadorian and she makes gluten not gluten free. Um vegan tamales and papuzas Ha, they're so good dude. So follow her and get some
[01:01:08] Damn sounds like the salvi the salvi diaspora is uh spreading pretty My brother's up there in seattle and he is always looking for some latin american food He's always having a hard time finding it. So send them up his way. He's too far north. Yeah
[01:01:24] Yeah, you guys ever go to canada? No, I have family in canada apparently but i've never been I went once for like a joint pocket up there in canada apparently really I I tried to get a burrito there. Um when we're there last year
[01:01:41] It was it was disgusting You want you want disgusting find mexican food in the midwest? Uh, oh man Now there there is I have actually no i thought it's a lie I found one place that had really good mexican food in Iowa
[01:01:54] But literally the name of the place was etch oh and Iowa and I was like, okay, they understand. They got it But like the rest of it is all like taco johns. It's horrible. Yeah. Yeah taco johns is um, it's a it's a delicacy on my reds
[01:02:07] So by the way, I don't know I don't think I still do it But but uh, they used to have their super size version, but they would call it mexy size Do you want to make these size your order? I'm like, oh god My mixie size mixie size
[01:02:19] Well, I'm gonna start it off guys this week. Uh, my it's kind of crazy my wife started watching this Outside of the boys because the boys came back and I know chico me is all about the boys I'm gonna let me all do that but
[01:02:32] But I've been watching with my wife kind of high and kind of gets sucked in You I think Kevin you you mentioned it. What is it like 911? 911 or whatever. Yeah, my partner's been watching that So, dude that fucking show is No, not reno 911. It's just called 911
[01:02:50] Angela basset is in it Right. Oh, Angela basset is in it. Uh, if you don't know the queen and black panther um She Dude this show is out of control like it is ridiculous like the last episode a guy
[01:03:04] Put a microwave on his head, but it was filled with concrete And so it was a youtube stunt and that was the and he somehow fell into a pool At the same time And they had to rescue him before he suffocated like just like the most dumbest
[01:03:21] Shit is that I was like, well, how the fuck is this? Yeah, but these are super firemen and super police and super ambulance people that like scale building Is that the one or is this a spin-off? Yeah, those stars a spin-off. Yeah
[01:03:38] And I think there's a debate and whether or not it's gonna come back for another season Which I don't know about because my partner watches all these shows. I watch it's good Like I'm no lie one time. I'm like in another room and then I hear oh, shit
[01:03:49] And it's like what happened why I say the guy he blew up and it's like Talking about like like people just explode on this show There's like a compressor holes went up a guy's butt in an episode
[01:04:01] So there's a lot that happens on this show that I hadn't I know Yeah You guys went into crazy shit like that you get a guy's head out of concrete and talk people off ledgers and shit Uh, no, I'm not a super
[01:04:29] I've never I've seen something pretty gnarly stuff, but it's mostly like For for my region, it's like what's the worst thing you smelled? That's More likely that we remember what we smell you can for whatever. What's the worst thing you smell you you brought it up
[01:04:42] Fuck it. What was the worst thing you smelled? Brains brains is pretty bad Like, um, what's it called bad brain? Yeah, yeah, I bleed you can smell a gi bleed from like the the street or um,
[01:04:59] Yeah, um, what's the other one uh uti eyes a lot of uti eyes Those are gnarly You smell it like in the back of your throat. You're like Oh You're doing god's work man, but I can't say you're doing it
[01:05:21] Like I work at surveillance. I just have to look at it from afar. I don't have to smell it I don't got it Interesting. Well, that's what I've been watching this week. It's fun. It's crazy
[01:05:32] It's if you want some outlandish shit because I always think to myself, okay, this 90% of this is fake But maybe some fucking guy tried putting his head in a microwave with concrete in it like maybe there was some
[01:05:43] It's all it's all based on like real headlines, but they like pump it up to 11 Oh my god When it's fun, it's it's garbage fun tv. So there you go primo
[01:05:53] That's what I've been into this week about uh, chikume. How about you man? What have you been up to besides Running around with your kiddos and all that well the kids and Baby mama they're out in california So I've been just catching up on sleep
[01:06:07] so silence and um I ended up watching like baki baki and Somebody called that other one. I was telling you Stanley about the anime right? The anime yeah, my friend my friend keeps telling me to watch that one. I'm like it just sounds horrible It is so
[01:06:25] Talk about like they're always like culturally speaking. They're like Women they're always talking about women and with daddy issues like this is like men with daddy issues like yes Very homoerotic and
[01:06:40] Well the way my friend explained it to me. It's not. Yeah, they're so straight that it becomes gay Like yo, joe You turn your body hard for a split second before impact Turning your body into steel and I'm like what? So
[01:07:02] You know what this is like van dam the anime like it's just 80s karate fucking muscle and it's like, you know what I can't stop watching them man. It's just so funny It's just ridiculously it's so bad. It's good. It's one of those chuknoirs movies
[01:07:17] I get so bad or uh, what's it called the other That other guy that goes like this and and uses their own jujitsu. Oh, what's his name? Oh, Stephen cigar Stephen cigar there you go. So yeah that type of stuff. It's like very reminiscent of what
[01:07:33] um 80s movies was so I watched that and then I watched uh cyberpunk Cyberpunk 70 20 77 which is pretty cool because Uh, I liked it because you know blah blah blah and then all of a sudden the mom said mijo
[01:07:47] Oh, shit. Look at this. I'm all of a sudden I'm being seen mijo. What's up? Like we're cool now. Yeah cyberpunk 20 77. I was like, oh look latino's all of a sudden we're like, you know, we get a mijo here No, it's only get a mijo in there
[01:08:03] Like look at us all muts and stuff. We were the the muts are kind of mixing in and so Ellie, what about you? Anything that you've been kind of fixated over watching or reading or gaming or anything
[01:08:16] This week's been a big uh work week for me coloring wise So I've done a lot of like music listening and then reading comics when I go to bed music wise
[01:08:24] I'm really like I found this like city pop playlist that I liked and an artist on there has really caught my attention And apparently is what more well none of that thought it's ginger root. I don't know if any of y'all have heard of ginger root
[01:08:36] He does a song little red that one Um, but no he has this really cool like chill city pop Which is like tech uh like like asian techno and pop mixed together with a with a vintage vibe and um, he just has a really cool way of
[01:08:54] Um, just orchestrating it all into one story and like his music videos are all telling the story of how he Like got rejected from the music scene like in japan made his own music studio is making his own It's it's it's really cool. It's like self made um
[01:09:11] And really fun. So that's I've been listening to a lot of a lot of his Listening to this right now and I'm loving it. Is this current or is this 70s because it looks this is current. This is current He is I know this
[01:09:27] Yeah, like you heard it. Yeah, you've heard it probably but no, I've really enjoyed it and listening to the playlist that Have been popping up Um recommended from from his work
[01:09:36] So that's been a lot of my listening while coloring this week. Um, but my wind downs. I've been reading web tunes more web tunes I finished the couple
[01:09:46] Yeah, I I've uh, I finished well finished caught up with a couple zara is one of them z a r a It's a little stressful to read. It's a romance. Um, but it centers around
[01:09:57] The main character zara who um goes to this prestigious university on a scholarship and She ends up um becoming a business partner with uh a popular rich guy and she just has like So many encounters of like the rich kids sabotaging her and it's so
[01:10:15] That's the part that like annoys me. I'm like just get to the romance. I'm tired of these kids bullying Yeah, it's still building up it's still building up right now. I think it's just the cheese. I'm part of it that I like
[01:10:29] Um, and then uh, the second one is high class homos, which I'm really glad I found that one It's uh a story centered around a prince and princess both of them are Homosexuals, but they made a pact to get married so no one would bother them
[01:10:44] Um, and they're secretly uh talking to their partners, uh, you know behind castle doors and a bunch of other High class homos It's Yeah, yeah But the story is intense and the art No, I've read some great webtoons that have some stuff like that. So it works
[01:11:07] I like that I can make some suggestions for you Please I know anyone who has webtoons suggestions. That's like my wind down after a day of work And it's been inspiring me lately so drop them anytime Definitely Kevin how about you man?
[01:11:20] Rounding us out. Well, I've been I've been very busy with a bunch of stuff lately But in terms of new stuff this this past week, uh, I saw Megan the salient in concert What? Yeah, that was that was oh my god You are your audience
[01:11:38] I am I am the audience by proxy. I am the you're the chauffeur for the audience I'm glad you said that to go man because like so much the audience was was blacks much the audience was female so much audience was lgbc
[01:11:53] As somebody put it to me like it's uh Megan created a safe space for them to just do whatever they want and have fun And and and you could really feel it but also I've seen like
[01:12:02] The documentary a documentary of her getting shot or something like that. Well, I don't know about documentary, but she did get shot Yeah, yeah, I thought I kind of looked into some of that Happening to her is like yeah
[01:12:14] Yeah, but but like I said the thing is that the show itself was what really good like I've been to like 2030 live shows I'm not a look
[01:12:23] Gabe. I'm sorry. I'm not a big live music guy. Like if I can hear it. I can hear it on my phone. I'm fine. You know what I mean Oh my gosh The only but I've been like 2030 because I'm always the date, you know
[01:12:33] um, but this is probably the Most well done live show I've ever seen There's a subtle that was a subtle brag. I'm always the date. I just get Just get taught the dates all the time never had a problem. So right well, okay. I wouldn't go that far
[01:12:47] So you're on the so you're on the Megan the stallion side of the beef with Nicki Minaj, right? Yes, definitely. Nicki Minaj has some I see again this stuff. I wouldn't have known until recently but now You're in you're in the lore now
[01:13:04] Yeah, my partner keeps you up to date on all this stuff. So yes, we're on the Megan stallion side Okay, the other thing that I'm really into right now
[01:13:11] Is nintendo just had their announcement this week and nintendo does announcements like every six months or so or every year And and for the last several years i've had, you know, one big announcement or whatever
[01:13:21] That everybody knows this is going to be like the last year of the switch Uh at their current system and my god, they had so many big announcements this week And it's just it's really blowed away
[01:13:32] The biggest one for me is they're finally going to be a legend of zelda game where you get to play as zelda And I just i'm very hyped for that. I've been watching but what was really great for me is going on and watching like
[01:13:43] Women and girls respond reacting to the bat news and just like they're just in tears. It's so great You know, they don't need me. I don't need kills on the show. She said finally No, he said finally we're getting zelda of legend
[01:13:58] And i'm like, yeah, that's fucking smart people saying they should call it the legend of link a zelda Oh Also, hello kitty island adventure. Yes. Yes. Hello. I'll tell letters from south park I'm actually excited about the new mario and luigi game
[01:14:18] Which is not i'm usually big mario guy and of course the metro game which they announced I think seven years ago is Fucking love me. I'm playing metroid I'm playing metroid fusion right now on my switch just for the i love those games
[01:14:31] I love prime and level stuff so i'm excited. Yeah Fun times fun times for primos. I want of course. Thank you gabe for being on the show tonight, man I hope we had a blast. You're welcome anytime anytime you want to have a conversation about anything come through
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[01:15:01] We're all primos ideals Yeah, there's horses. See there's horses here in texas too, man. So you should come down here Man speaking of megastallion like there you go. I saw her on a horse and that was it for me
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