[00:00:00] Que ondas Primos, Primas y Primas
[00:00:02] Welcome to my, My Primos, My Primos, My Primo Podcast
[00:00:07] My name is Freddy, My name is Kevin Garcia
[00:00:10] My name is Elia Maria Matriz, This is Chukume, Whenever I can make it
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[00:00:17] From comics, movies, to whatever obsession we have this week
[00:00:21] But with a Latine, Latine, Latine perspective
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[00:00:38] Que ondas Primos, Primas, and Primas
[00:00:40] And welcome back to My Primos Podcast
[00:00:42] My name is Primo Freddy
[00:00:43] And with me tonight is my, primo, and yours, Mr. KevinGarcia.com
[00:00:48] Say what's up Kevin
[00:00:49] What's up Kevin
[00:00:50] There it is everybody, what we all thrive for every week
[00:00:54] You know, I wait for it every week
[00:00:56] Every week, every week
[00:00:57] That greeting
[00:00:58] And with me of course, my prima
[00:00:59] It's like being home
[00:01:00] Oh look at that, it's Kevin
[00:01:01] Of course, interrupts you know
[00:01:02] If Chukume is not here, the spirit of Chukume is moving through
[00:01:05] Through Kevin Garcia, you know
[00:01:07] He's always inside me in some way or another
[00:01:09] Wait
[00:01:10] Oh
[00:01:10] Well, well
[00:01:12] You do live in the same neighborhood
[00:01:15] So, moving along with us, of course
[00:01:18] My prima and yours
[00:01:19] Elia Madria Madrid
[00:01:21] At Spice Illustrations
[00:01:22] Say what's up Elia
[00:01:23] What's up Elia?
[00:01:25] A little wave, just a little wave
[00:01:26] Just a tiny wave
[00:01:27] Just a little wave
[00:01:28] Just a tiny wave
[00:01:30] Nice
[00:01:30] I don't know
[00:01:31] Oh, well, yeah
[00:01:33] Yeah, everyone had crowns on
[00:01:35] So I drew one last minute
[00:01:38] And I have this ridiculously heavy one
[00:01:40] That I found at a flea market
[00:01:42] Or something
[00:01:43] Royalty
[00:01:43] Nice, nice
[00:01:45] And tonight we have some special guests with us
[00:01:48] Long time coming
[00:01:48] I'm really excited to have these guests on today
[00:01:50] We have from a beloved convention
[00:01:53] That we have here in Texas
[00:01:54] From Mixamerican
[00:01:55] We have Javi and Nino
[00:01:57] Javi and Nino
[00:01:58] Say what's up 12 primos out there
[00:02:02] Thanks for having us
[00:02:04] Yeah
[00:02:06] Yeah, exactly
[00:02:07] Well, I'm flashing the crown
[00:02:09] Elia had her crown earlier too
[00:02:11] But mine is just kind of an accidental deal
[00:02:13] Even though
[00:02:14] You look good in a crown
[00:02:15] You do look good
[00:02:16] You basically
[00:02:17] I'm thinking you got that biggie energy, you know
[00:02:20] I was thinking that
[00:02:21] I mean, like
[00:02:23] Yep, I can see it
[00:02:24] I can see it
[00:02:24] Go to the grocery store with it on, for sure
[00:02:26] I see the cool Cosby sweater
[00:02:28] That's what I need, you know
[00:02:29] Definitely, definitely
[00:02:30] Definitely, definitely
[00:02:31] The reason I love Mixamerican
[00:02:32] I like it for a lot of reasons, actually
[00:02:34] Because I enjoy whenever we have the Latino cons
[00:02:35] Like the Latinx Expo in California
[00:02:38] The Latino Comic Con in Dallas
[00:02:39] But I also love that it's a pun
[00:02:44] Mixamerican
[00:02:44] And I just, I cannot get over that
[00:02:46] I love the pun of it all
[00:02:47] It's so good
[00:02:48] Yeah
[00:02:48] You know
[00:02:50] Some people really like it
[00:02:51] Some people are like
[00:02:52] I don't like that name
[00:02:53] So, I mean
[00:02:54] What?
[00:02:55] At least you get a good response out of it
[00:02:56] Well
[00:02:56] Yeah
[00:02:57] Originally it was going to be
[00:02:59] Mexicon
[00:02:59] But it was just too
[00:03:00] We were leaving out
[00:03:03] The American in that
[00:03:04] You know
[00:03:04] So I don't want to have a
[00:03:05] But I don't like Mexicon
[00:03:06] As much as I like Mexamerican
[00:03:08] Hold on
[00:03:08] I don't know why
[00:03:09] I like Mexicon
[00:03:11] I think we need to make something happen
[00:03:13] With Mexicon
[00:03:14] I didn't trademark it
[00:03:16] Like Mex-E
[00:03:16] Like Y
[00:03:17] Mex-E
[00:03:18] Con
[00:03:19] Hey, that's pretty good
[00:03:20] Where were you nine years ago?
[00:03:22] Man
[00:03:22] Wait, wait
[00:03:23] Mex-E
[00:03:24] With a little E
[00:03:25] Because it's the online version of Mexamerican
[00:03:28] Oh my god
[00:03:29] Yes
[00:03:30] Alright
[00:03:31] I like the E
[00:03:33] The E con
[00:03:34] It's con with everyone else
[00:03:36] Like togetherness
[00:03:37] The comunidad
[00:03:37] We're working on the franchising
[00:03:39] Of Mexamerican
[00:03:40] There you go
[00:03:41] We're going to have a brainstorm
[00:03:43] Great brainstorm
[00:03:44] This is that brainstorm
[00:03:45] But we're going to get into the origins
[00:03:47] I want to know about it
[00:03:48] How it came about
[00:03:49] I want to know
[00:03:50] If you guys ever
[00:03:51] Kind of go at each other's throats
[00:03:52] Because you know
[00:03:53] You're working on an event together
[00:03:54] It happens
[00:03:55] I fight with my wife
[00:03:55] Building fucking furniture
[00:03:56] I can't imagine running
[00:03:58] A fucking convention
[00:03:58] Honestly
[00:03:59] That sounds like
[00:04:00] An exciting type of furniture
[00:04:02] Well
[00:04:03] Fighting furniture
[00:04:04] Or fucking furniture
[00:04:06] Can I just say
[00:04:07] I really love that
[00:04:07] That segment you guys have
[00:04:09] Where Kevin fills the hole
[00:04:11] It's one of my
[00:04:11] I don't know
[00:04:12] I have no idea what you speak
[00:04:15] You get it man
[00:04:16] I mean
[00:04:17] I see it like
[00:04:18] You know
[00:04:18] The extreme makeover
[00:04:21] Home edition
[00:04:21] Where they're like
[00:04:22] Move that bus
[00:04:22] That's everybody's yelling that
[00:04:24] Fill that hole
[00:04:26] That's how I see it
[00:04:27] But
[00:04:28] Honestly
[00:04:29] It's a calling
[00:04:30] And I answered
[00:04:32] You know what's funny enough
[00:04:33] They're giving me a stage
[00:04:34] This year
[00:04:34] Kevin Garcia
[00:04:35] We'll talk about that
[00:04:36] Here in a second
[00:04:37] Yeah
[00:04:37] But
[00:04:38] Primos
[00:04:38] Remember
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[00:04:47] Our reviews
[00:04:48] Which I am
[00:04:49] Almost done with my Joker review
[00:04:50] Which we talked about last week
[00:04:51] Which we'll chime in here later
[00:04:53] And Anino has thoughts too
[00:04:54] But of course guys
[00:04:56] I want to just thank you guys
[00:04:57] For listening
[00:04:57] I'm going to welcome our guests here
[00:04:59] Primos
[00:05:00] Let's dive right in
[00:05:01] And
[00:05:02] Let's just start
[00:05:03] Anino
[00:05:03] How about you man
[00:05:04] Tell me
[00:05:04] Like
[00:05:05] One day
[00:05:06] You're having a smoothie
[00:05:08] You're done
[00:05:09] Like pushing 285
[00:05:11] And then you just walk across the street
[00:05:13] And you run into Javi
[00:05:14] Like
[00:05:14] Ah man
[00:05:15] If only
[00:05:16] Like how did this become a thing
[00:05:18] Like how did you guys just
[00:05:19] Start this idea
[00:05:21] To start a convention
[00:05:22] And kind of
[00:05:23] Elaborate for me
[00:05:25] I mean that's
[00:05:26] The story's just about right
[00:05:28] With the exception of
[00:05:29] Javier
[00:05:30] Really had the idea going
[00:05:32] First
[00:05:33] He had
[00:05:34] You know
[00:05:34] He had that running through his mind
[00:05:36] And
[00:05:37] Called me up
[00:05:37] And said
[00:05:38] Hey
[00:05:38] How'd you like to help me out with this
[00:05:40] I was just removed out of
[00:05:41] Or had left a job
[00:05:43] Working primarily
[00:05:44] In the cultural arts
[00:05:45] At the time
[00:05:46] And I was looking to connect back
[00:05:48] To cultural arts
[00:05:49] And events
[00:05:50] And things of that nature
[00:05:51] So it was just perfect
[00:05:52] I mean he called me at the right time
[00:05:53] And really have enjoyed doing it
[00:05:55] And you know
[00:05:57] Connecting with all the
[00:05:58] Artists and creators out there
[00:06:00] And just
[00:06:01] Doing something
[00:06:02] More so for
[00:06:03] The culture
[00:06:04] And the community
[00:06:04] As opposed to
[00:06:05] More like
[00:06:06] Corporate type
[00:06:07] Things
[00:06:09] Javi
[00:06:10] What about you man
[00:06:10] Like what
[00:06:11] What spurred that thought then
[00:06:12] Man like
[00:06:13] What was that like
[00:06:14] Eureka moment
[00:06:15] That you know
[00:06:16] Falling upside down
[00:06:17] Onto the toilet
[00:06:18] Like what
[00:06:18] What was that moment for you
[00:06:20] That happens to me a lot
[00:06:21] But besides that
[00:06:23] There's a
[00:06:24] So have you ever seen that movie
[00:06:25] My Blue Heaven
[00:06:26] I don't know
[00:06:27] Yeah I love it
[00:06:28] Yeah I love it
[00:06:29] Remember when he's in the
[00:06:31] Witness
[00:06:33] Protection
[00:06:33] Protection program
[00:06:34] And he meets all the other guys
[00:06:35] That are in there
[00:06:36] Yeah
[00:06:37] And he's like
[00:06:37] There's enough of us
[00:06:38] To have a crime spree
[00:06:40] So it was one of those
[00:06:41] Kind of things
[00:06:42] Going to comic book conventions
[00:06:44] Seeing a lot of brown faces
[00:06:45] Like all the time
[00:06:46] All the time
[00:06:46] All the time
[00:06:47] Like there's enough of us
[00:06:49] Not for a crime
[00:06:49] There's enough of us
[00:06:50] For our own convention
[00:06:51] And it's
[00:06:52] Like just across the board
[00:06:54] And so honestly
[00:06:55] And I gotta give a lot of credit
[00:06:56] To
[00:06:57] To this man right here
[00:07:00] Freddy Lopez
[00:07:02] I also have to get a lot of credit
[00:07:03] To Freddy Lopez
[00:07:04] Yes
[00:07:04] So
[00:07:05] When it was just
[00:07:06] A seedling idea
[00:07:08] When nobody
[00:07:09] Kind of gave me the
[00:07:12] Time of day for it
[00:07:13] I told him
[00:07:13] I was like
[00:07:14] Hey
[00:07:14] I have this idea
[00:07:15] For this comic book convention
[00:07:17] And he's like
[00:07:18] You know what
[00:07:19] That's a great idea
[00:07:20] Here
[00:07:21] Let me
[00:07:21] And I saw his stuff
[00:07:23] And I thought it was a great thing
[00:07:24] It was like
[00:07:24] Alamo City Comic Con
[00:07:25] Or something like that
[00:07:26] And I was like
[00:07:27] And he goes
[00:07:28] That's a great idea
[00:07:29] And he gave me this
[00:07:30] He was like
[00:07:31] Here
[00:07:31] Take this
[00:07:32] As like
[00:07:32] You know
[00:07:33] Just something to
[00:07:33] To kind of keep it going
[00:07:35] And stuff
[00:07:35] And I was like
[00:07:36] I mean
[00:07:36] I don't have anything
[00:07:37] Going on
[00:07:38] Like
[00:07:38] This is just an idea
[00:07:40] I pick up trash
[00:07:41] At a cultural center
[00:07:42] Right now
[00:07:44] But I want to try to
[00:07:45] You know
[00:07:46] Make this a thing
[00:07:47] He's like
[00:07:48] Count me in
[00:07:48] I'm one of your first people
[00:07:50] So
[00:07:52] Fast forward two years
[00:07:53] Of like
[00:07:53] Telling people about it
[00:07:55] And nobody understanding
[00:07:56] Back then
[00:07:56] Kind of what that's about
[00:07:57] Like I don't understand
[00:07:58] So you're going to have
[00:08:00] Mexicans and comic books
[00:08:01] I don't understand
[00:08:02] Where those two things meet
[00:08:04] So I might as well
[00:08:05] Have been like
[00:08:06] You know
[00:08:06] Peanut butter and bananas
[00:08:07] To people that never
[00:08:08] Eaten that sandwich
[00:08:09] Because they didn't
[00:08:10] Understand it
[00:08:11] So I just kept asking
[00:08:11] The people with
[00:08:13] The money
[00:08:14] And then the access
[00:08:14] To really
[00:08:16] A place to have it
[00:08:18] And
[00:08:19] And I
[00:08:20] And then
[00:08:20] You know
[00:08:21] Finally it just happened
[00:08:22] I went over there
[00:08:23] To Texas Latino Comic Con
[00:08:24] I mean
[00:08:25] It was just after years
[00:08:26] Of letting people know
[00:08:27] And people not understanding
[00:08:28] And then I saw that
[00:08:29] You know
[00:08:30] You're all over
[00:08:31] There in Dallas
[00:08:32] Had the same
[00:08:33] Kind of like
[00:08:34] You know
[00:08:34] Parallel thinking
[00:08:35] And it was weird
[00:08:36] Because we do it
[00:08:37] At the MAC
[00:08:37] They do it
[00:08:38] At the LAC
[00:08:38] And I was like
[00:08:39] Wow
[00:08:41] Let's
[00:08:41] You know
[00:08:41] Let's make this happen
[00:08:42] So
[00:08:43] You know
[00:08:43] People get it done man
[00:08:45] That's it for real
[00:08:46] You know what
[00:08:47] I love that you say
[00:08:48] That people didn't get it
[00:08:48] Because
[00:08:49] The first time I went
[00:08:50] Which was
[00:08:51] I don't know
[00:08:52] At this point
[00:08:53] Six, seven years
[00:08:54] I don't know
[00:08:55] Whenever it was
[00:08:55] First time I went
[00:08:57] I invited
[00:08:58] Some of my
[00:08:59] Anglo friends to go
[00:09:00] And they were like
[00:09:00] Oh we don't want to
[00:09:01] Encroach on your space
[00:09:02] This is for Latinos
[00:09:03] And I was like
[00:09:03] We want your money
[00:09:05] Yeah
[00:09:05] No for real
[00:09:06] Come buy things
[00:09:07] Yeah
[00:09:08] So the idea
[00:09:08] Of people not getting it
[00:09:10] At first
[00:09:10] I get that
[00:09:11] You know
[00:09:11] And it's like
[00:09:12] Once they kind of
[00:09:13] Wrap their head around
[00:09:13] Like oh wait a minute
[00:09:14] It's just a convention
[00:09:15] Like any other convention
[00:09:16] It's just that we're
[00:09:17] Focusing on people
[00:09:18] From within the community
[00:09:19] That's the idea
[00:09:20] And that's a big thing
[00:09:21] I think that's a fair
[00:09:22] No I was going to say
[00:09:23] I think that's a fair
[00:09:24] You know
[00:09:25] Comment or
[00:09:27] Situation right
[00:09:27] That we find ourselves in
[00:09:28] Because
[00:09:30] Javier always likes
[00:09:31] To equate this
[00:09:31] And he can expand on this
[00:09:32] To you know
[00:09:34] You going out
[00:09:34] To the carne asada
[00:09:35] Out of your
[00:09:35] You know
[00:09:36] Your tia's
[00:09:36] Or your family's asada
[00:09:38] Right
[00:09:38] Like
[00:09:38] But you know
[00:09:39] You get that one person
[00:09:40] Who's not used to
[00:09:42] Being invited to the outside
[00:09:42] You know
[00:09:43] They might sit back
[00:09:43] They might not be
[00:09:44] Too keen on going
[00:09:46] But
[00:09:46] That's really just
[00:09:47] Kind of the atmosphere
[00:09:48] That we try to build
[00:09:48] With Mexamerican
[00:09:49] And that's why
[00:09:50] It's just got so many
[00:09:51] Different components
[00:09:52] And just
[00:09:52] Well you know
[00:09:52] You mentioned that
[00:09:53] You wanted a connection
[00:09:55] To culture
[00:09:57] To the comunidad
[00:09:58] Like
[00:09:58] Expand on that
[00:09:59] Because
[00:09:59] We talk about it
[00:10:00] With our
[00:10:01] You know
[00:10:01] Conversations
[00:10:02] That you know
[00:10:03] Comic books
[00:10:04] You know
[00:10:04] Art
[00:10:05] Is a personal thing
[00:10:06] You know
[00:10:06] And then
[00:10:06] Seeing our faces
[00:10:07] Our voices
[00:10:08] You know
[00:10:09] The culture
[00:10:10] Right now
[00:10:10] And I think
[00:10:11] We've talked about it
[00:10:11] Before
[00:10:12] Like
[00:10:13] It's cool to be Latino
[00:10:15] Until there's too much of it
[00:10:17] You know what I mean
[00:10:17] Like
[00:10:17] Until we get too much
[00:10:19] In your face
[00:10:19] Then it's not
[00:10:20] You're pushing it
[00:10:21] Yeah
[00:10:22] But they love us enough
[00:10:24] They love us enough
[00:10:25] To buy it at H-E-B
[00:10:26] They love us enough
[00:10:27] To go
[00:10:28] You know
[00:10:28] We talked about last time
[00:10:29] The
[00:10:30] The white gaze
[00:10:32] You know
[00:10:32] But
[00:10:33] I want to expand on that
[00:10:35] For a second though
[00:10:35] Because I think about
[00:10:37] I made this comparison
[00:10:37] On the show before
[00:10:39] Ant-Man has like
[00:10:40] One Latino character in it
[00:10:41] And everybody loves it
[00:10:42] But then when
[00:10:43] Blue Beetle was gonna be like
[00:10:44] We're all Latino characters
[00:10:45] People were like
[00:10:45] Oh that's just
[00:10:46] That's a bit too much
[00:10:47] Too much
[00:10:47] It's too brown
[00:10:50] I mean
[00:10:50] You know
[00:10:51] So I'll ask you
[00:10:51] You know
[00:10:52] Why was this
[00:10:52] Like this jump off
[00:10:53] To where you're like
[00:10:54] I want to get back
[00:10:55] Into the culture
[00:10:56] I want to get back
[00:10:56] Into the culture
[00:10:56] Like
[00:10:57] How did comic books
[00:10:58] And I mean
[00:10:59] Have you been
[00:11:00] A comic book fan
[00:11:01] Or what
[00:11:01] Pulled you into
[00:11:02] The comic book space
[00:11:03] Have you both
[00:11:04] Always been fans of that
[00:11:05] Yeah I mean
[00:11:06] I never really
[00:11:07] I grew up
[00:11:08] In the country
[00:11:09] Didn't really come
[00:11:10] Into you know
[00:11:11] Town very often
[00:11:12] And had limited resources
[00:11:13] Growing up
[00:11:14] So comic books
[00:11:15] Was really never
[00:11:16] Anything that
[00:11:17] I was generally
[00:11:17] Exposed to
[00:11:18] Other than
[00:11:18] Whenever my
[00:11:19] You know
[00:11:19] Cousins or friends
[00:11:20] Might have one
[00:11:21] Here or there
[00:11:22] Obviously
[00:11:23] Never really
[00:11:23] I never saw
[00:11:24] Myself in those
[00:11:25] Comic books
[00:11:26] Represented as much
[00:11:27] As you know
[00:11:28] We're trying to do
[00:11:29] And present now
[00:11:31] But yeah I mean
[00:11:32] Outside of that
[00:11:34] My father was always
[00:11:35] Big on about
[00:11:36] You know
[00:11:36] Culture and
[00:11:38] You know
[00:11:38] Just cultural pride
[00:11:39] And things
[00:11:40] And so I always
[00:11:40] Found that
[00:11:41] From my dad
[00:11:43] And from there
[00:11:44] I mean I went
[00:11:45] To a school
[00:11:45] That was
[00:11:47] Growing up
[00:11:47] You know
[00:11:48] Elementary
[00:11:48] Middle school
[00:11:49] High school
[00:11:49] You know
[00:11:50] It was
[00:11:50] Predominantly white
[00:11:52] School
[00:11:53] And you know
[00:11:53] Just really
[00:11:54] Didn't see myself
[00:11:55] You know
[00:11:56] Represented
[00:11:56] Or really out there
[00:11:58] So I found myself
[00:11:59] Gravitating to
[00:12:00] You know
[00:12:00] Stories of
[00:12:01] You know
[00:12:01] Mexican Revolution
[00:12:02] Pancho Villa
[00:12:03] Mediano Zapata
[00:12:04] And things of that nature
[00:12:06] So that was always
[00:12:07] Something that
[00:12:07] You know
[00:12:08] Really dug into
[00:12:09] And enjoyed
[00:12:10] Found my way
[00:12:11] Into college
[00:12:11] Ended up
[00:12:12] As a Mexican
[00:12:13] American Studies
[00:12:13] Major
[00:12:15] And really just
[00:12:16] You know
[00:12:16] Enjoyed that
[00:12:18] Was able to
[00:12:19] See myself
[00:12:21] Was able to
[00:12:21] Hear stories
[00:12:22] That you know
[00:12:22] You don't hear
[00:12:23] In mainstream
[00:12:24] Media
[00:12:25] Mainstream
[00:12:26] History
[00:12:26] Anything
[00:12:27] Of that sort
[00:12:29] Anything that
[00:12:30] We are
[00:12:30] Represented
[00:12:30] By in the
[00:12:31] Textbooks
[00:12:32] These days
[00:12:33] Is by now
[00:12:34] Already halfway
[00:12:35] Removed
[00:12:35] Or if not
[00:12:36] More than
[00:12:36] That
[00:12:38] So you know
[00:12:39] It's just
[00:12:39] Frustrating
[00:12:41] And eventually
[00:12:41] I found myself
[00:12:42] Working at a
[00:12:43] Cultural center
[00:12:43] With Javier
[00:12:45] Did that for
[00:12:46] About six years
[00:12:47] And left there
[00:12:49] To a different
[00:12:49] Job
[00:12:50] And then that
[00:12:51] Was kind of
[00:12:51] Around the time
[00:12:52] That Javier
[00:12:52] Called me
[00:12:53] And you know
[00:12:54] I was just
[00:12:55] Ready to get
[00:12:56] Back into it
[00:12:56] Ready to
[00:12:57] You know
[00:12:58] Do my part
[00:12:58] I'm an artist
[00:13:00] By no means
[00:13:01] Can't draw a
[00:13:02] Straight line
[00:13:03] So
[00:13:04] Right here man
[00:13:04] You know
[00:13:04] I'll find myself
[00:13:05] Being more of
[00:13:06] An administrator
[00:13:08] And just doing
[00:13:09] What I can
[00:13:10] In my time
[00:13:11] At the cultural
[00:13:11] Center
[00:13:11] It was all about
[00:13:12] Being a key
[00:13:13] Holder
[00:13:13] And trying to
[00:13:14] Open you know
[00:13:14] Doors
[00:13:15] Or give advice
[00:13:16] And you know
[00:13:16] Just trying to
[00:13:17] Provide more
[00:13:17] Access
[00:13:18] I love that
[00:13:19] Image man
[00:13:19] Of the key
[00:13:20] Holder
[00:13:20] Like you know
[00:13:21] Like you said
[00:13:24] We talk about
[00:13:24] Gatekeeping and
[00:13:25] Things like that
[00:13:25] And opening doors
[00:13:26] And it's such
[00:13:27] A symbolic deal
[00:13:28] But then let's
[00:13:29] Be real
[00:13:29] You fucking
[00:13:30] Open and close
[00:13:30] The building
[00:13:31] Too you know
[00:13:31] What I mean
[00:13:32] Like we
[00:13:33] You know
[00:13:33] We grew up
[00:13:33] With that
[00:13:34] Like hey
[00:13:34] Yeah
[00:13:34] We trust you
[00:13:35] With the
[00:13:35] Building
[00:13:36] You know
[00:13:37] And like
[00:13:39] That image
[00:13:40] Of the key
[00:13:40] Holder
[00:13:41] You know
[00:13:42] Rick Moranis
[00:13:42] Somehow got back
[00:13:43] Into my brain
[00:13:44] But
[00:13:44] Because of
[00:13:45] My blue heaven
[00:13:46] There we go
[00:13:47] Ghostbusters
[00:13:47] We're back
[00:13:48] We're back
[00:13:48] We're back
[00:13:49] It's an 80s thing
[00:13:50] You just gotta
[00:13:50] Go with it
[00:13:51] It's an 80s thing
[00:13:51] You just gotta go with it
[00:13:52] But what I'm getting at
[00:13:53] Is it's a beautiful
[00:13:55] Symbolism there
[00:13:55] That's that image
[00:13:56] Of the key holder
[00:13:56] I say opening doors
[00:13:57] That's what you're doing
[00:13:59] Man
[00:13:59] You're not an artist
[00:14:00] But facilitating
[00:14:01] The fact that
[00:14:01] You can
[00:14:02] You can connect
[00:14:03] The culture
[00:14:04] With the art
[00:14:05] With the
[00:14:06] With the
[00:14:06] Creation
[00:14:07] With the creators
[00:14:08] You know
[00:14:08] Elia has a table there
[00:14:09] Most of the times
[00:14:10] Right
[00:14:10] And that
[00:14:12] She can express her
[00:14:13] Yeah
[00:14:14] Please expand
[00:14:14] You know
[00:14:15] Yeah
[00:14:15] No
[00:14:15] Like I've been
[00:14:16] Doing this show
[00:14:17] I don't even remember
[00:14:19] The first year
[00:14:19] I did the show
[00:14:20] But I
[00:14:20] I'm so happy
[00:14:22] That y'all reached out
[00:14:23] The year y'all did
[00:14:25] And I was able to do it
[00:14:27] It's
[00:14:28] It's more than just
[00:14:29] An event
[00:14:30] For me
[00:14:31] Because there's something
[00:14:32] About events
[00:14:32] That connect
[00:14:33] With la cultura
[00:14:34] And I can showcase myself
[00:14:37] Not just as another artist
[00:14:38] But as a Latina
[00:14:39] Like I'm a Latina
[00:14:40] That's doing this
[00:14:41] And to be able to
[00:14:43] Meet other artists
[00:14:44] Other comic artists
[00:14:45] Other creators
[00:14:45] Other creatives
[00:14:47] That are also
[00:14:49] Latine
[00:14:49] And have works to show
[00:14:51] It's been the best
[00:14:52] Like
[00:14:53] Kind of like
[00:14:54] Welcoming
[00:14:55] Into the community
[00:14:56] On the creative side
[00:14:58] Of the Latina space
[00:14:59] I've met so many
[00:15:01] Great people
[00:15:01] Like
[00:15:02] It's not just a show
[00:15:03] It's like
[00:15:04] It's like a reunion
[00:15:05] It's like a family reunion
[00:15:06] With a bunch of creatives
[00:15:08] And meeting new
[00:15:09] New creatives each year
[00:15:10] That I get to follow
[00:15:11] And it just always
[00:15:13] Blows my mind
[00:15:14] Like
[00:15:16] How
[00:15:17] Talented we all are
[00:15:18] You know
[00:15:19] Like everyone's amazing
[00:15:20] And I'm so glad
[00:15:22] That's the best way of putting it
[00:15:22] Yeah
[00:15:23] You know
[00:15:23] It's like
[00:15:25] Amazing people
[00:15:26] Showcasing their work
[00:15:27] And I'm honored
[00:15:28] To just be able
[00:15:29] To bask in it
[00:15:31] We're honored
[00:15:32] That you chose to come
[00:15:33] And you know
[00:15:34] Take a chance with us
[00:15:35] That first year
[00:15:36] And then
[00:15:37] Still keep coming
[00:15:38] And showcasing
[00:15:39] And I mean
[00:15:40] Like Nino said
[00:15:42] We're just administrators
[00:15:43] So we don't
[00:15:44] We're not here
[00:15:44] To try and
[00:15:45] You know
[00:15:45] Do a backdoor
[00:15:46] Backdoor sell your
[00:15:47] Herbalife
[00:15:47] Or nothing like that
[00:15:48] We're just here
[00:15:49] To showcase y'all
[00:15:50] And that's really it
[00:15:51] I'm in the market by the way
[00:15:51] Put together
[00:15:52] The convention
[00:15:53] Go ahead
[00:15:55] About Herbalife
[00:15:55] Yeah
[00:15:55] We need some Herbalife
[00:15:56] We need some Herbalife
[00:15:57] Oh sorry
[00:15:58] I need sponsors
[00:15:58] Oh okay
[00:15:59] It's a great product
[00:16:01] Hey you know what
[00:16:01] Herbalife
[00:16:03] But I was going to ask you
[00:16:04] Javi like
[00:16:04] You know like
[00:16:05] Did you ever
[00:16:06] Like what was the vision
[00:16:07] When you talked
[00:16:08] We talked to Nino
[00:16:09] Or you know
[00:16:10] Freddy Lopez
[00:16:10] And everybody
[00:16:11] Hey this is my vibe
[00:16:12] This is my idea
[00:16:13] You know like
[00:16:13] But what finally said
[00:16:15] Like put you over
[00:16:16] Was it
[00:16:17] I mean like
[00:16:18] Finally made it happen
[00:16:20] One word
[00:16:21] Ignorance
[00:16:22] Nino said it best
[00:16:24] When we did that
[00:16:26] That statesman interview
[00:16:27] They were asking
[00:16:28] You know
[00:16:28] What made you think
[00:16:29] That you could do this
[00:16:31] And you know
[00:16:31] Nino
[00:16:33] He said
[00:16:34] I think Javi was
[00:16:34] Pretty ignorant
[00:16:35] As to what
[00:16:36] He could
[00:16:36] He could do
[00:16:37] And not do
[00:16:38] And that was really it
[00:16:39] I mean
[00:16:40] It was just
[00:16:41] Hey
[00:16:41] Just like a band-aid
[00:16:43] I didn't
[00:16:44] I
[00:16:45] You have to pay
[00:16:46] For a lot of stuff
[00:16:46] I mean you know
[00:16:47] Y'all have your
[00:16:48] Passion projects
[00:16:48] It's not gonna
[00:16:49] Make you any money
[00:16:50] So that's the first thing
[00:16:51] That you gotta get
[00:16:51] Out of your head
[00:16:53] You were going
[00:16:54] To lose money
[00:16:55] But you were gonna
[00:16:56] Gain so much more
[00:16:57] From just
[00:16:59] You know
[00:17:00] Emotionally
[00:17:01] And just
[00:17:01] Spiritually
[00:17:02] And all that stuff
[00:17:03] That
[00:17:03] That offsets it
[00:17:05] A thousand million percent
[00:17:06] Whatever it is
[00:17:07] So
[00:17:08] Yeah
[00:17:08] Just at one point
[00:17:09] You just kind of
[00:17:10] Just take that step
[00:17:11] Off that ledge
[00:17:12] Make that first call
[00:17:13] And when that first person
[00:17:14] Says yeah I'm down
[00:17:15] Do not let that
[00:17:16] First person down
[00:17:17] Do not let that
[00:17:18] Second person down
[00:17:19] That third person down
[00:17:20] You don't wanna have
[00:17:20] A fire fest
[00:17:21] Right
[00:17:21] So you wanna make sure
[00:17:22] That everybody's
[00:17:24] Going
[00:17:24] Everybody's taken care of
[00:17:25] What's that
[00:17:26] Unless you want
[00:17:27] A documentary made
[00:17:28] Then totally have
[00:17:29] That fire fest
[00:17:30] Yeah
[00:17:30] I called Ja Rule
[00:17:31] But he was not down
[00:17:32] For another
[00:17:33] It would be called
[00:17:33] Mexa Marino
[00:17:35] We don't want that
[00:17:36] We don't want
[00:17:37] Mexa Marino
[00:17:38] We don't want that
[00:17:39] We don't want that
[00:17:41] We don't want the
[00:17:41] Yeah
[00:17:44] So I mean
[00:17:45] That's really it
[00:17:45] You know
[00:17:45] And to
[00:17:46] Mino's point
[00:17:48] And to Kevin's point
[00:17:49] It's like
[00:17:50] It's not just about
[00:17:51] You know
[00:17:51] And you're asking about
[00:17:52] Like the theme
[00:17:53] And things like that
[00:17:54] We start off our event
[00:17:56] With like
[00:17:57] An artist circle
[00:17:58] To kind of
[00:17:59] You know
[00:17:59] Introduce everybody
[00:18:00] Get that
[00:18:01] You know
[00:18:01] That going
[00:18:02] That's true
[00:18:03] I love that
[00:18:04] It's so funny
[00:18:05] That actually
[00:18:05] Was an idea
[00:18:06] That
[00:18:06] Go ahead
[00:18:07] It creates like
[00:18:08] A little mini community
[00:18:09] Within the community
[00:18:10] And I love it
[00:18:11] Yeah
[00:18:12] You know
[00:18:12] That's not my idea
[00:18:14] That actually
[00:18:15] In
[00:18:15] Teatro Campesino
[00:18:17] Luis Valdez
[00:18:18] Who did
[00:18:18] La Bamba
[00:18:20] He had a theater camp
[00:18:21] And that's what they did
[00:18:23] Every
[00:18:23] You know
[00:18:24] In the beginning
[00:18:24] Of that theater camp
[00:18:25] So
[00:18:26] All his kids
[00:18:27] His family
[00:18:28] His family
[00:18:28] Kind of ran it
[00:18:29] It was a cool
[00:18:30] Little experience
[00:18:31] But anyway
[00:18:32] I always loved that
[00:18:33] That was a fantastic
[00:18:34] Experience
[00:18:35] So
[00:18:37] I
[00:18:37] I don't know
[00:18:38] Every time
[00:18:39] One of us
[00:18:40] Has an idea
[00:18:40] Like for instance
[00:18:41] To wear this hat
[00:18:42] I'm like
[00:18:43] Man is that going to be
[00:18:43] Really dumb
[00:18:44] Or
[00:18:44] Kind of dumb
[00:18:46] You know
[00:18:46] Dude I'm
[00:18:46] I'm digging the vibe
[00:18:48] Like I'm like
[00:18:48] Like
[00:18:51] Hat wear
[00:18:52] Hat wear
[00:18:53] Thank you
[00:18:54] So
[00:18:55] Sunglasses inside
[00:18:56] That's the vibe
[00:18:57] I can dig
[00:18:57] Sunglasses inside
[00:18:58] It's a very
[00:18:59] Pitbull vibe
[00:19:00] Future so bright
[00:19:01] You know
[00:19:03] That's kind of
[00:19:04] What we're looking at
[00:19:05] Right there
[00:19:05] You know what I mean
[00:19:07] But I'm just glad
[00:19:08] That it was
[00:19:08] That you know
[00:19:09] That it's so well received
[00:19:11] That you know
[00:19:12] We want to create
[00:19:12] That community
[00:19:13] And I'm glad
[00:19:13] That we're on
[00:19:14] My Primo's podcast
[00:19:15] Because that's how
[00:19:16] We ultimately see everybody
[00:19:18] Is a primo
[00:19:19] Prima
[00:19:19] Prima
[00:19:20] Is like
[00:19:21] You know
[00:19:21] Everybody has a little bit
[00:19:22] Of different
[00:19:23] Differing opinions
[00:19:24] Different views
[00:19:25] On things
[00:19:26] But ultimately
[00:19:27] You know
[00:19:27] We all grew up
[00:19:28] In your grandma's house
[00:19:29] We all grew up
[00:19:30] In the same kind of way
[00:19:31] And you might have
[00:19:32] A primo that
[00:19:33] Went to prison
[00:19:34] And you might have
[00:19:35] A primo that's a cop
[00:19:35] And everybody comes together
[00:19:37] And you're all eating
[00:19:38] That same
[00:19:39] We still get along
[00:19:40] Pozole
[00:19:40] That everybody ate
[00:19:41] And all that stuff
[00:19:42] So that's kind of
[00:19:43] What we want
[00:19:43] Is like
[00:19:44] Everybody
[00:19:44] Yeah
[00:19:45] Is that everybody
[00:19:46] Kind of just get together
[00:19:47] It's like a backyard
[00:19:48] Barbecue
[00:19:49] Or whatever it is
[00:19:50] Y'all
[00:19:50] You know
[00:19:51] Concentrate on the positive
[00:19:53] And hopefully make connections
[00:19:54] And everybody
[00:19:55] Kind of goes off from there
[00:19:56] And does their own thing
[00:19:57] And just have like
[00:19:58] You know
[00:19:59] Six hours of just peace
[00:20:01] And a good time
[00:20:02] So that's really it
[00:20:03] I love that you said
[00:20:04] Everybody
[00:20:05] And you bring everybody in
[00:20:06] And you say
[00:20:07] Everybody's a primo
[00:20:07] And the thing is
[00:20:11] Like you know
[00:20:12] We're in Texas
[00:20:12] The majority of Latinos
[00:20:14] And Latinas here
[00:20:15] Are Mexican-American origin
[00:20:17] But literally
[00:20:19] Everybody's invited
[00:20:19] It's a nice pun
[00:20:21] Like I said
[00:20:21] It works for the pun
[00:20:23] Really well
[00:20:24] But like
[00:20:25] I've actually had people say
[00:20:26] Well you know
[00:20:27] We're Colombian
[00:20:28] Or whatever
[00:20:29] Is that like
[00:20:29] No no
[00:20:29] You're invited too
[00:20:30] Everybody's invited
[00:20:31] You know
[00:20:32] It's just for the title
[00:20:33] And it's a good title
[00:20:35] But like
[00:20:36] Everybody's family
[00:20:37] I mean
[00:20:38] We can't just talk about
[00:20:39] Rucha Khan
[00:20:39] You know
[00:20:40] I mean
[00:20:40] That could happen
[00:20:40] Down the line
[00:20:41] I don't know
[00:20:41] I'm not promising anything
[00:20:43] But
[00:20:44] Let us know
[00:20:44] Let us know
[00:20:46] It may happen
[00:20:48] Otra fiesta
[00:20:49] We have pupusas
[00:20:49] Instead of tacos
[00:20:50] It'll be great
[00:20:51] Yeah
[00:20:52] In support of
[00:20:52] Salvadorian brothers
[00:20:53] Yeah
[00:20:53] You know
[00:20:55] Our
[00:20:55] It's pretty savvy right now
[00:20:56] Too
[00:20:57] So you know
[00:20:57] Bitcoin land
[00:20:58] And
[00:20:59] Surf city
[00:21:00] Whatever
[00:21:01] I say this
[00:21:02] Because
[00:21:02] There's some nefarious shit
[00:21:04] Under the sands
[00:21:05] In El Salvador
[00:21:05] And trust me
[00:21:06] I got opinions
[00:21:07] But that'll be for
[00:21:07] A different show
[00:21:10] Well
[00:21:12] I'm excited
[00:21:12] Because I got to
[00:21:13] You know
[00:21:14] Collaborate with you all
[00:21:15] A few years back
[00:21:15] I think I first met
[00:21:16] Kevin there as well
[00:21:17] When we were doing
[00:21:18] Things during
[00:21:19] During COVID
[00:21:20] You know
[00:21:21] Yeah
[00:21:21] That's right
[00:21:22] I was hosting
[00:21:23] The online
[00:21:24] I think I was hosting
[00:21:25] The online convention
[00:21:26] Because I did that
[00:21:27] For you guys
[00:21:28] And for another convention
[00:21:28] As well
[00:21:29] Which made me feel
[00:21:30] Really special
[00:21:30] As even though
[00:21:31] I know nothing
[00:21:32] About technology
[00:21:32] But I was hosting
[00:21:33] A lot of the pandemic ones
[00:21:35] Can I just say too
[00:21:36] Real quick
[00:21:37] That how
[00:21:37] Grateful we are to Kevin
[00:21:39] And I don't want to
[00:21:40] Like gloss over that
[00:21:41] Because Kevin
[00:21:42] Had been like
[00:21:43] Such an early supporter
[00:21:44] Of us
[00:21:45] And had been
[00:21:47] Just so great
[00:21:48] With everything
[00:21:48] That he does
[00:21:49] Getting
[00:21:50] You know
[00:21:50] All of his research
[00:21:51] All of his knowledge
[00:21:51] Like there's no way
[00:21:52] That I could even touch that
[00:21:53] Like I like comic books
[00:21:55] But when I met Kevin
[00:21:56] I'm like
[00:21:56] I don't like comic books
[00:21:58] There's no way
[00:21:59] That I can
[00:21:59] Zell is opening
[00:22:01] He sent
[00:22:01] You know
[00:22:02] He sent you some cash
[00:22:03] Zavi
[00:22:04] I see that
[00:22:04] You sharing the screen
[00:22:05] There was a need
[00:22:07] There was a need
[00:22:08] There was a thing
[00:22:08] That was missing
[00:22:09] That needed
[00:22:10] To have something
[00:22:11] Inside of it
[00:22:12] And I just said
[00:22:13] That had to be me
[00:22:14] Own it man
[00:22:15] That had to be
[00:22:16] You own it
[00:22:17] Fill that
[00:22:17] Finally
[00:22:19] Acceptance
[00:22:20] Acceptance
[00:22:20] He's been doing it
[00:22:21] For a while
[00:22:21] I never denied it
[00:22:22] I'll be honest
[00:22:23] Yeah
[00:22:24] So thank you very much
[00:22:26] Merch coming soon
[00:22:27] Everybody
[00:22:28] There you go
[00:22:29] T-shirt coming soon
[00:22:30] Can't wait man
[00:22:31] Can't wait
[00:22:32] Kevin feels
[00:22:33] A hole
[00:22:34] He does
[00:22:34] Definitely
[00:22:35] He feels a hole
[00:22:36] But I bring up
[00:22:37] COVID because
[00:22:38] Obviously you know
[00:22:39] Getting
[00:22:40] Not only is it hard
[00:22:41] To get a convention
[00:22:42] Off the ground
[00:22:42] Obviously
[00:22:43] And then
[00:22:44] How many years
[00:22:44] Running were you guys
[00:22:45] Into Mixamerican
[00:22:46] When COVID hit
[00:22:47] And you had to
[00:22:48] Make a change
[00:22:49] That would have been
[00:22:50] That was the third year
[00:22:51] Started in 18
[00:22:52] 19
[00:22:52] And then
[00:22:53] 2020 we presented
[00:22:54] Online
[00:22:56] I mean
[00:22:57] What was that like
[00:22:59] I mean
[00:22:59] It was tough
[00:23:00] I mean
[00:23:01] Through the discussions
[00:23:01] We had
[00:23:02] We just didn't want
[00:23:03] To lose our presence
[00:23:05] Presence out there
[00:23:06] And you know
[00:23:07] Presenting the con
[00:23:07] We wanted to keep
[00:23:08] That longevity
[00:23:09] And just be consistent
[00:23:10] And being able
[00:23:11] To offer
[00:23:13] You know
[00:23:13] The connection
[00:23:14] To the community
[00:23:14] And the creators
[00:23:16] But it was also
[00:23:17] A great opportunity
[00:23:17] For us to be able
[00:23:18] To connect with
[00:23:19] A lot of people
[00:23:19] From out of town
[00:23:20] Out of state
[00:23:21] So that was
[00:23:22] A great opportunity
[00:23:24] We had people
[00:23:24] Out of California
[00:23:26] Washington State
[00:23:28] We had one of our
[00:23:29] Percenters
[00:23:29] Was from Brazil
[00:23:31] That Kevin
[00:23:32] Connected us with
[00:23:33] So it was
[00:23:33] Just a great opportunity
[00:23:34] And it allowed us
[00:23:36] To do a lot
[00:23:36] Of different things
[00:23:37] To
[00:23:38] We were able
[00:23:39] To feature
[00:23:40] A little bit more
[00:23:40] On the
[00:23:42] Animation
[00:23:42] With
[00:23:44] Robert Gonzalez
[00:23:45] Out of San Antonio
[00:23:46] Yeah
[00:23:46] That was awesome
[00:23:48] To be able
[00:23:49] To connect with him
[00:23:50] You know
[00:23:51] I like that you said
[00:23:52] That about
[00:23:53] Bringing people
[00:23:54] Together as well
[00:23:54] Because aside from
[00:23:55] Just getting the
[00:23:56] Community out there
[00:23:57] And then making
[00:23:57] That little community
[00:23:58] With like the circle
[00:23:58] Before and everything else
[00:23:59] One thing I love
[00:24:00] About these kind of events
[00:24:01] Is creators
[00:24:02] Get to meet creators
[00:24:03] Yes
[00:24:04] Like you get to
[00:24:05] Like I said
[00:24:06] Met Freddie
[00:24:07] In fact Ellie
[00:24:08] I'm pretty sure
[00:24:09] I met you
[00:24:09] At one of these events
[00:24:10] I think so
[00:24:11] Yeah
[00:24:11] So like yeah
[00:24:12] Everybody meets people
[00:24:14] Here
[00:24:14] Both the
[00:24:16] Audience
[00:24:17] And the creators
[00:24:18] Themselves
[00:24:19] It's just
[00:24:19] It's not even
[00:24:20] Networking
[00:24:21] It's really just
[00:24:21] Meeting people
[00:24:22] And making
[00:24:23] Friends and family
[00:24:24] That's honestly
[00:24:25] One of the most
[00:24:25] Rewarding things
[00:24:26] Too about
[00:24:27] Mexamerican
[00:24:28] Like whenever
[00:24:29] Somebody connected
[00:24:30] Or you know
[00:24:31] They just became
[00:24:31] Friends
[00:24:32] Or next thing
[00:24:32] You know
[00:24:32] Somebody's working
[00:24:33] On a project
[00:24:34] Together
[00:24:34] I mean that's
[00:24:35] That's just
[00:24:36] To another level
[00:24:36] Of what we're
[00:24:37] You know
[00:24:37] Looking to
[00:24:38] To have
[00:24:39] And to see
[00:24:40] Done
[00:24:41] Heck yeah
[00:24:42] Yeah like I
[00:24:43] Have a whole
[00:24:43] Base in Austin
[00:24:44] Now that like
[00:24:46] Keeps up with
[00:24:46] My stuff
[00:24:47] And it feels
[00:24:47] Cool
[00:24:47] It's like
[00:24:48] Oh I'm not
[00:24:49] Just in Dallas
[00:24:49] Now
[00:24:50] People in Austin
[00:24:51] Like me
[00:24:52] Yeah
[00:24:52] I mean
[00:24:53] The reason I bring
[00:24:54] Up COVID is
[00:24:54] Because I think
[00:24:55] That's the first
[00:24:55] Time we worked
[00:24:56] Together
[00:24:56] And I was
[00:24:57] You know
[00:24:57] We did our
[00:24:58] Process there
[00:24:59] And we had a
[00:24:59] Blast
[00:25:00] And then
[00:25:00] That vibe
[00:25:01] Just kept
[00:25:01] Running man
[00:25:02] Like after that
[00:25:03] We finally
[00:25:03] Were back in
[00:25:04] Person
[00:25:04] You know
[00:25:05] And I love
[00:25:06] How it just
[00:25:06] Came back
[00:25:07] Full force
[00:25:07] Right
[00:25:08] And not only
[00:25:08] That but
[00:25:09] The fact that
[00:25:09] It feels like
[00:25:10] It's just
[00:25:12] Getting to be
[00:25:12] A bigger
[00:25:13] Bigger party
[00:25:13] You know
[00:25:14] We're celebrating
[00:25:15] That right
[00:25:16] This is
[00:25:17] Now year
[00:25:18] What nine
[00:25:18] Am I
[00:25:20] Ten
[00:25:21] Seven
[00:25:21] Seven
[00:25:22] It's issue
[00:25:23] Seven
[00:25:23] It says on
[00:25:24] The poster
[00:25:25] Issue
[00:25:25] Seven
[00:25:26] Seven
[00:25:26] Seven
[00:25:27] Seven
[00:25:27] Seven
[00:25:28] Which by the way
[00:25:29] That threw me
[00:25:30] Off and I'm not
[00:25:30] Going to lie
[00:25:31] Even though
[00:25:31] I'm you know
[00:25:32] I'm all into
[00:25:32] Comic books and
[00:25:33] Stuff I saw
[00:25:33] Issue seven
[00:25:34] I was like
[00:25:34] I wonder why
[00:25:34] I said seven
[00:25:35] Are they referencing
[00:25:35] I'm like
[00:25:36] Wait
[00:25:36] It's because
[00:25:37] It's year seven
[00:25:40] What do we have
[00:25:41] To look forward
[00:25:42] To this year
[00:25:43] Like let's talk
[00:25:44] About this year's
[00:25:45] Event
[00:25:45] Which is of course
[00:25:46] Happening November
[00:25:47] November 2nd
[00:25:49] Mexamerican
[00:25:49] Tell us about
[00:25:50] You know
[00:25:51] Where is it
[00:25:52] Going to be
[00:25:52] Held
[00:25:52] And what
[00:25:53] Can we look
[00:25:53] Forward to
[00:25:54] What can
[00:25:54] People look
[00:25:55] Forward to
[00:25:55] At Mexamerican
[00:25:58] Yeah I'll go
[00:25:59] So we're
[00:26:00] Having it at
[00:26:01] The
[00:26:01] Again we're
[00:26:02] Having it at
[00:26:02] The Panamerican
[00:26:03] So the
[00:26:03] We usually
[00:26:04] Have it with
[00:26:05] Our partners
[00:26:05] The city
[00:26:06] Of Austin
[00:26:06] Mexican
[00:26:07] American
[00:26:07] Cultural
[00:26:07] Center
[00:26:08] Right now
[00:26:09] They're doing
[00:26:09] Some renovations
[00:26:10] For a couple
[00:26:11] Years
[00:26:11] So in that
[00:26:12] Time
[00:26:12] We're at
[00:26:13] The Panamerican
[00:26:15] Park
[00:26:16] Hillside
[00:26:16] Theater
[00:26:17] So we're
[00:26:18] Going to
[00:26:18] Have it
[00:26:18] Again
[00:26:18] There
[00:26:20] This year
[00:26:21] Until the
[00:26:22] Renovations
[00:26:23] Are done
[00:26:23] I believe
[00:26:24] Next year
[00:26:25] Hopefully
[00:26:26] We can have
[00:26:26] It next year
[00:26:27] But you know
[00:26:28] How things
[00:26:28] Go with the
[00:26:29] City
[00:26:29] So let's
[00:26:29] Just
[00:26:30] You know
[00:26:30] Hopefully
[00:26:31] So this
[00:26:32] Year's
[00:26:32] Going to be
[00:26:32] Same
[00:26:33] Pretty much
[00:26:33] Same
[00:26:33] Setup
[00:26:34] But bigger
[00:26:35] How many
[00:26:36] Artists
[00:26:36] And
[00:26:37] Artists
[00:26:37] Inventors
[00:26:37] Do we
[00:26:38] Have now
[00:26:38] So this
[00:26:40] Year we're
[00:26:41] Up to
[00:26:41] About
[00:26:41] 45
[00:26:43] Comic
[00:26:43] Book
[00:26:44] Creators
[00:26:45] Artists
[00:26:45] And related
[00:26:46] Media
[00:26:46] Like zines
[00:26:47] Fan art
[00:26:49] Things of
[00:26:49] That nature
[00:26:49] And then we
[00:26:50] Have another
[00:26:50] 25 or so
[00:26:52] Artists
[00:26:52] Inventors
[00:26:53] That'll be
[00:26:54] Doing
[00:26:54] What you'll
[00:26:55] Find at
[00:26:55] Typical
[00:26:56] Art
[00:26:56] Markets
[00:26:57] Of those
[00:26:58] 44
[00:26:59] Of those
[00:26:59] 45
[00:27:00] 44
[00:27:00] Of them
[00:27:00] Are really
[00:27:01] Talented
[00:27:01] And then
[00:27:01] There's
[00:27:01] Me
[00:27:05] You're
[00:27:05] Five
[00:27:05] Of those
[00:27:06] 45
[00:27:06] That's
[00:27:06] We counted
[00:27:07] You five
[00:27:07] Times
[00:27:08] Kevin
[00:27:10] You're joking
[00:27:11] There
[00:27:11] But one
[00:27:12] Of the things
[00:27:13] That we
[00:27:13] Really
[00:27:13] Pride
[00:27:14] Are
[00:27:14] On
[00:27:14] Is a
[00:27:17] Latino is. If somebody wants to participate and they define themselves as Latino, whatever
[00:27:22] form of media or look they'd like to have, you know, we have anime people who are more anime themed.
[00:27:29] We have like, you know, I guess what you would term maybe like a classical type look. We have,
[00:27:33] you know, people who are trying new edge things, steampunk, like it's just, it's all over the place.
[00:27:38] Um, and that's by no means, you know, we're the administrators. We're there to put on that party
[00:27:43] and to make it, um, you know, be the best experience for everybody who's involved.
[00:27:48] And so like, we really enjoy that. And then the other part is, you know, we have varying levels of
[00:27:53] experience and skill level, you know, it's, it's, if you want to get out there, you know,
[00:27:58] come on, we'd like for this to be your first place to kind of take that jumping start from.
[00:28:03] You know, I like that you said that because, um, something I've talked about before is that
[00:28:07] I had a lot of trouble with my identity growing up on the border because I was
[00:28:11] not Mexican enough or not white enough or whatever. But when I came to Austin,
[00:28:15] it felt really, really welcoming. It's the first time I really felt like I was part of a community
[00:28:20] and Mexamerican was a big part of that. So that's like, I, I 100% agree with that. I love that.
[00:28:27] Yeah. Our own official motto is, uh, if you're brown, we're down, you know, it's like,
[00:28:32] yo, you know, and various levels of brownness. Um, you don't know. Yeah. So it's basically,
[00:28:37] yeah, whatever you're doing, we want you to be able to develop it. If you're starting out,
[00:28:42] we also want kids to go out there and see people that look like them that have their names to be
[00:28:48] able to say, you can do this too. Like, it's not just, you know, you have to look a certain way or
[00:28:53] tell a certain story. You don't have to do superhero stuff. I mean, you know, love and rockets was a great
[00:28:58] comic book, um, things like that. You know, you can do whatever you want to do, but, um, we just want to
[00:29:03] make sure that there's a space for that. Right. So, uh, Nino says there's a platform for you to
[00:29:07] showcase what you're doing. So that's really it. I love that. Hell yeah. No, definitely. It's great
[00:29:13] to hear that because it's exciting whenever we have, like you said, right. That when we see that,
[00:29:18] I love seeing that Kevin's the one that travels the most and Elliot does as well, but Kevin's like,
[00:29:22] when it's all over the place, but see these conventions, these gatherings of community,
[00:29:27] of comunidad, Latino, Tatenay, creatives, right. From the, from what is it all the way up there,
[00:29:32] by the panhandle or all the way down by the border, you know, like there's conventions popping up here
[00:29:36] and there, right. Gatherings that are growing and growing. So it's great to see stuff like
[00:29:39] Mexican American and Texas Latino comic-con here in Dallas. And we had, we had one in Brownsville
[00:29:44] briefly called, uh, Criarte, which I really loved. I don't, I haven't heard it from the past couple
[00:29:49] of years. I think the pandemic really had a lot of people hard. It is. Oh man.
[00:29:54] I'm out yesterday. See, that's the trouble. I'm literally, somebody was asking me the
[00:29:58] day about something happening on the border and I'm like, yeah, um, I don't hear about it as much
[00:30:01] anymore. I need, I need to connect down there some more. I need to get back about it. Criarte,
[00:30:05] I know you're listening. So, uh, bring me next time.
[00:30:08] Right. You need somebody to fill a spot for a hole? Kevin Garcia, everybody. He can take care of
[00:30:14] it for you guys. Um, you know, I think that the, the fact that we get to have these conversations
[00:30:19] and talk about the culture and still have fun, right? At the end of the day, it's fun because we all
[00:30:24] grew up, at least I did, you know, kind of beat over the head that culture means boring. Culture
[00:30:33] is history lesson in history. If it's not taught right or the right history is not taught. We
[00:30:37] don't expand to learn from it. Right. It was just a beating as another lesson, but when we can expand
[00:30:42] on it and understand that you can learn from your culture is everything from the food you eat,
[00:30:47] the songs your mom sang at the kitchen, you know, or the, the, the neighborhood guys hanging out
[00:30:52] front, just telling jokes, ragging on each other. That's culture. That's, that's our people.
[00:30:55] You know? And no matter where, as I always say it, man, I mean it, no matter where you're from,
[00:31:00] we're all primos, right? We have a connection to each other. So Mexamerican,
[00:31:03] Test Latino Comic Con, you know, all these conventions that are, that are up and down Texas
[00:31:07] and Los Angeles everywhere that have, like you said, the Browns brown space, you know,
[00:31:12] like I'm excited for that. And I get so pumped when I hear that, but we're not the one,
[00:31:16] like you say, opening those doors. We're not gatekeeping. We want everybody to come in. So
[00:31:21] November 2nd, Mexamerican, the primos are going to be there. I believe the ghost of Chikume will
[00:31:27] appear. Yeah. Okay. It will appear. We've been told. It's been prophesied.
[00:31:31] It's been prophesied. It said somebody threw some bones and some dice and
[00:31:34] Yeah. Manifested everybody. Like we burned some sage, all this stuff. So he may appear.
[00:31:39] If we clap hard enough, something like that. I don't know. Different, different medium. But
[00:31:45] having, you know, you know, I want to give you the space right here to talk to the audience. Somebody
[00:31:50] that just never been to your convention, somebody that's like curious about it, be it as a patron,
[00:31:56] be it as a creative, maybe for next season or next year. Like tell them about why they need to come
[00:32:01] to Mexamerican, like why they need to show up to support the primos like us and just to go experience
[00:32:07] the culture that you guys have worked so hard to cultivate there. Well, I think the first thing
[00:32:14] for creatives and for artists is that we don't charge is one thing for your artists. Like there's
[00:32:21] a lot, you know, something that if we can keep going with that, that's something that's a goal
[00:32:26] for our comic book artists. Cause I know that there's a lot of, we know that there's a lot of hurdles
[00:32:32] uh, financially to get your art out there. Uh, it's very expensive. You know, if you're doing print,
[00:32:38] you're doing all this stuff, there's a lot of overhead with that. And, uh, kind of again, talking
[00:32:42] about your commercial comic book conventions. Yeah. I mean, you're, it just kind of blows my mind that
[00:32:48] you got to pay them to actually have a product for them. You know, it's kind of like they're getting
[00:32:54] you two ways and then, you know, you got to make all, all your money back somehow. So anyway, we want
[00:33:00] to take that kind of paywall out of the picture so that people that, and also we're not charging our,
[00:33:07] our audience as well. So you get people that, you know, that want to go to comic cons
[00:33:11] that have never been that. So they got two different, you know, two different points that
[00:33:16] help out is like, A, you're going to see phases that look like you and B, you're not, you're not
[00:33:20] going to have to spend 25, 50 bucks just to go over there and, you know, just to see if you like it
[00:33:26] or not. Right. Come check it out, get into that space. Um, so anyway, that's one thing. Um, the
[00:33:31] other thing is just like a party. We have food over there. We got, um, you know, we got music. Um,
[00:33:36] one of our, uh, our punk rock bands, uh, outlet odyssey that we, that we, uh, partner with every
[00:33:42] year. They're, they're, uh, from El Salvador. Um, so there you go, maybe one of your next,
[00:33:48] if you, you know, check them out. They just, because of, of us, like they were kind of like
[00:33:54] in the space of not, um, they didn't have any, any, uh, Spanish music, but then after we kept
[00:34:00] having them, they wrote a Spanish song and, uh, Brian told me that he's like, Hey,
[00:34:05] cause we're here, you know, and we come here every year. We thought we'd at least have a Spanish,
[00:34:09] uh, punk rock song for you guys. So there we come. I have to go meet my own man and go,
[00:34:13] let go, go, hug it out and kind of, you know, get psyched up.
[00:34:16] Hey, that's awesome. Cool dudes. So, and Nino, anything that I'm.
[00:34:21] Yeah, no, I'll just expand on, uh, you know, the no charge thing. Uh, we want families to be able to
[00:34:26] come out, um, again, just to hit on some of those things, but it's hard to go to any of
[00:34:31] those conventions and things, especially whenever they're more commercialized and they can be more
[00:34:35] expensive. Um, a lot of those things are based on, at least from what I've seen on, you know,
[00:34:40] the special appearances, you know, get your picture, get your signature, um, things of that
[00:34:45] nature. And then, you know, the, you can still do that for the cast of my Primo's podcast.
[00:34:50] I promise you, I won't charge you. Okay. I'm there for every picture.
[00:34:54] I will.
[00:34:55] I will.
[00:34:55] The only charges for autographs.
[00:34:57] That's a good point that Nino brought up too. Cause a lot of times when you go to the comic cons,
[00:35:01] really all the, all the resources are going towards the celebrity stuff.
[00:35:04] We focus on the comic book creators, like the, our artists and creators is the focus of our event.
[00:35:11] And so everything else that we have over there, it's cool, but it's really to get everybody to see
[00:35:16] these comic book creators, the artists and, um, artists, vendors, creators, things like that.
[00:35:21] Um, so, you know, that's a good reason why we partnered with the Mac to do it during their Dia
[00:35:27] de los Muertos event. They were so kind enough to have us there. Um, so it kind of brings people
[00:35:31] that wouldn't necessarily come there for that to kind of see that. And, um, you know, that's
[00:35:36] pretty, got pretty popular commercially the other those methods. So, you know, let's use that.
[00:35:41] Let's use that and let's introduce them to some people and some artists that they normally wouldn't
[00:35:46] have. So spoonful of sugar, come on down, you know, by the way, I love that it's timed with
[00:35:52] Dia de los Muertos. Um, how that that's been, that's enabled you to get like other kind of
[00:35:58] partnerships, I guess, helping out to kind of co-promote, I guess. Right. How, how has the
[00:36:03] Dia de los Muertos become part of the event? So, um, one of our sponsors has been, uh, Lupe Arte.
[00:36:10] It's a Latinas Unidas por el Arte. Um, Mary Lou, and them have been just fantastic, um,
[00:36:16] believers in what we do. So can't thank those ladies enough. Um, but yeah, doing it, uh, during, uh,
[00:36:23] Dia de los Muertos has, has, like I said, um, just people don't expect that to, uh, to have, um,
[00:36:34] like a comic book convention there. So when they come, they're like, all right, I want to see,
[00:36:39] you know, sugar skulls. I want to see all these different things, but, um, you have people going
[00:36:44] over there and not just Latino people. Like we have a big audience and those are the people that come
[00:36:49] there for that product. So I think some of our other, um, uh, artists and I forgot who it was.
[00:36:55] It told me they're like, I've been told that they said that they do very well there because people
[00:37:01] come there for that specific product. I think it got off tangent, but, um, basically, yeah. Like
[00:37:05] people come there to, to get that. So, um, I forgot what the original question was, but, uh, basically.
[00:37:12] It still works. It still works. Yeah. It works, man. Sorry. Yeah. And you know,
[00:37:16] that, that just really worked out for us in the timing. One of the years that we were trying to
[00:37:20] do the event, um, we have a great artisan market as another part of our, um, event and the Mac was
[00:37:28] looking for some of that. And so we were able to, you know, kind of pull our things together and be
[00:37:33] able to provide not only Mexamerican, but the artisan market, things of that nature, um, which just
[00:37:38] overall leads to, um, we've always tried to build the event as again, as a big party, right? And
[00:37:45] multimedia, um, different aspects for different people. Um, so that that way we can get them
[00:37:50] there, but then we can then, you know, bring them over to the comic book creators and things of that
[00:37:56] nature. So they find themselves in places they wouldn't necessarily, you know, it's an inclusion,
[00:38:00] you know what I mean? Like let's, let's look at it from, you know, an event, an event headspace,
[00:38:05] right? Like you're including people that, like you said, if my wife isn't as a city, she's now
[00:38:11] how it has to, cause I drag her everywhere with me, but she's not the one that would go to a
[00:38:15] convention and what to read comic books and hunt down random black and white prints of tales from
[00:38:20] the crypt, you know, like, like, and, you know, shake hands with the Kevin Garcia, you know what
[00:38:25] I mean? Like, she's just like, whatever, like, let me go. But because you have the artisan market,
[00:38:30] because you have the Los Muertos, Los Altar is there, right? I've been, when I went to the Mac,
[00:38:34] I saw that, like, she felt like, wow, a connection, you know? She's a, wow, this is great. There's,
[00:38:40] there's, there's this here for that crowd that wants to see that little bit of, of, of home or the,
[00:38:46] or the past or that culture there as well. And it, it, it allows for, you know, 14 year old
[00:38:53] comic book nerd that's freaking out. That wants to go buy books and stickers to have mom and dad,
[00:38:59] you know, Hey mom, look, dad, look, this is like a sneaky way to get in. You know what I mean?
[00:39:02] Like, Hey, it's a cultural thing, but little do they know it's on both ends, man, everywhere.
[00:39:07] You know what I mean? So they're both getting, getting fed that culture. So it's awesome. I'm
[00:39:12] excited that that, that correlation is there. And then can't say it enough. November 2nd,
[00:39:17] Mexamerican, um, definitely guys show up if you're in Texas or not fly in, make it happen. I don't know.
[00:39:24] We got people listening from everywhere. So please, if you can, if you want to come on in,
[00:39:27] it's a free show. They can't pay for your tickets as far as flights or hotels, but
[00:39:31] you know, if you come out of town and I'll buy your soda, I'll do that. I'll do your solid.
[00:39:36] Okay. And also too, if you've got a family, yeah, for next year, if, and also I just want to highlight
[00:39:42] do something that you brought up Freddie, like about families, right? So, uh, we have activities
[00:39:46] for kids. It's free again. We really like to not charge anybody for anything. Um, so, uh, we have
[00:39:53] activity for, for kids. One of the things is, um, uh, games like, uh, throwing games, but we,
[00:40:00] we've taken away the balls and stuff and replace it with chanclas. So, um, chanclas chucking,
[00:40:06] uh, Mexican hole competition. Um, yes. So, um, just like it, uh, different, you know, like,
[00:40:14] you know, just little workshops, free sugar skulls, face painting, balloon twisting,
[00:40:18] all these different kinds of things to just keep, you know, keep your kids, um, you know,
[00:40:22] occupied somewhere in the corner over here from there are going to be pinatas over there.
[00:40:26] They're going to be pinata, um, displays. So a lot of different things again, just to make sure that
[00:40:32] the whole family can go. Cause you know, those of us with families, you just can't, you know,
[00:40:36] drag your kids along to be like, come over here to see this thing that mommy or daddy wants to see.
[00:40:41] Yeah. Um, you gotta have some face paintings important. Yes. Yes.
[00:40:45] And you can't forget the lotteria. We're going to have lotteria again. Oh, that's right. Sorry.
[00:40:49] This year we're going to be working with, uh, working with the guy out of California who has a, um,
[00:40:55] a lotteria deck that's going to, um, give us some feet. Let us feature his, uh, game this year.
[00:41:02] Um, so we're really excited about working with that. His name is Ernesto Quinones Curiel out of, uh,
[00:41:09] California. Um, and so we're really excited about that.
[00:41:12] And then the Wally, you're going to have a Wally game as well, right?
[00:41:16] Exactly. Yeah. We'll have that presentation as well.
[00:41:19] Gonzalo.
[00:41:20] You'll be there. Gonzalo. I know a lot of the old, it's fun to just kind of use a reunion,
[00:41:23] uh, but the Primos will be there. We have, we have something going on over there with the works.
[00:41:28] Um, and we're excited about that. It'll be my, my first time being involved with Mixamerican
[00:41:32] outside of being a guest, just being a guest and a patron, but I'm excited.
[00:41:35] We're excited. We're super excited to have y'all.
[00:41:37] We're big fans of the show.
[00:41:40] We're big fans.
[00:41:40] I appreciate it. I appreciate it. I tell people, I tell people, it's not just me playing radio.
[00:41:46] There's people listening. Okay. There's people listening. Okay. All right.
[00:41:50] You guys have a really great dynamic. I mean, it's, it's, it's entertaining. It's informative.
[00:41:55] So we're very, we're very happy to, to be on here and hopefully.
[00:42:02] Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It's great. It's right there. That's it.
[00:42:06] Burger King.
[00:42:06] There you go. Sit down, man. There's a Burger King.
[00:42:08] Love it.
[00:42:08] Literally. But Primos, I want to just, uh, we're going to, uh, uh, again, reiterate
[00:42:14] Mixamerican. And, uh, what are the socials? So people can follow, you know, follow along,
[00:42:18] find you guys, um, feel free. What is it?
[00:42:22] So on Instagram, uh, and Facebook, you can find us at Mexamerican, M-E-X-A-M-I-A-M-E-R-I-C-O-N.
[00:42:33] Catch us there. Uh, like, and share, please pass along the, you know, the word to all your family
[00:42:39] and friends. If you're out of, uh, out of state, please connect with those in state and let them know.
[00:42:44] Uh, if you're out of state and you can catch a flight over, come on, check us out.
[00:42:51] Never know, man.
[00:42:52] Come anyway. It doesn't matter how far you're coming from.
[00:42:54] Have fun.
[00:42:55] Yeah. And just on that note, we have artists and creators coming from, we have one coming from, uh, Sacramento.
[00:43:02] Um, we have people come from San Antonio, Dallas.
[00:43:06] I've heard you have artists from as far away as Austin.
[00:43:10] South Austin.
[00:43:12] Yeah. I'm coming from South Austin. There you go.
[00:43:15] There you go. It's such a, you gotta go through I-35. That's no joke, man.
[00:43:18] It's like, I got, and Ben White. I'm coming from way far away.
[00:43:21] Dang.
[00:43:23] Well, Primos, we're going to take a quick break here.
[00:43:26] Uh, we'll be right back with more from the show, our recommendations and more with Javi and Nino.
[00:43:31] Stay tuned.
[00:43:32] Cumbia.
[00:43:34] La vida sigue.
[00:43:36] La gente yola.
[00:43:39] El papato vuela.
[00:43:55] Thanks for hanging on with us, Primos, and we're back.
[00:43:57] So before we get into our recs, I wanted to bring something up we talked about last episode,
[00:44:01] and now we have thoughts here on the panel.
[00:44:03] But it was the Joker sequel, right?
[00:44:05] Joker 2, Falou de Kluke, that movie?
[00:44:10] The thing, the Joker, the second one.
[00:44:12] The thing, the-
[00:44:13] Electric Boogaloo.
[00:44:15] The foul, the foul of the foot.
[00:44:17] I mean, whatever, you know, that one.
[00:44:19] Um, so I read something, Kevin, I mentioned it before the show,
[00:44:22] and I think we're going to decide to hold on to it for until we get a recording, right?
[00:44:25] So, obviously, you guys know my thoughts about it, and, uh, I think go see it for yourself,
[00:44:29] but I recommend you watch The Wild Robot instead.
[00:44:32] Or anything else?
[00:44:34] Anything else?
[00:44:35] You know what?
[00:44:35] Megalopolis?
[00:44:36] Or Megalopolis?
[00:44:37] Never mind it.
[00:44:37] Maybe not that.
[00:44:38] You went to a whole different-
[00:44:40] Me and you can talk afterwards.
[00:44:42] Um, but here's the deal.
[00:44:44] Everything that I voiced, uh, was kind of echoed by a lot of different people, right?
[00:44:48] They all have their- their- their- their qualms, but overall,
[00:44:51] the people that are in our bubble kind of went like,
[00:44:54] hey, you know what?
[00:44:54] Kind of a shitty movie.
[00:44:55] Kind of bad.
[00:44:56] Didn't hold up, right?
[00:44:58] You know what I mean?
[00:44:58] You kind of shaking your head.
[00:44:59] Yeah.
[00:45:00] But, the fact that they went to defend themselves was amazing.
[00:45:05] There was everything from the studio saying,
[00:45:09] it's not my job.
[00:45:10] It was a director that had final say, so, you know, we- it's on him.
[00:45:15] Then the director going, you just didn't get it.
[00:45:19] Yeah, of course.
[00:45:20] It's- it's- it's because it's so- so obtuse and so different,
[00:45:24] and you- you're- you're not supposed to like Arthur.
[00:45:29] You're supposed to do this, and it's just- you don't get it.
[00:45:32] It's different.
[00:45:32] It's just so high art.
[00:45:34] The Italian- the Cannes Festival, it was amazing.
[00:45:37] People loved it at Cannes, and I'm like, okay.
[00:45:40] And then every other interview I read was people saying that it's just so new
[00:45:44] and so nouveau that we don't understand it,
[00:45:46] that it's so arty that we're just not supposed to get it.
[00:45:49] But 10 years from now, people will look back at this film
[00:45:52] and say that this was the start of the- of the- of the revolution
[00:45:55] between comic books and pop culture to become more high art.
[00:46:01] That's the high art revolution we're going.
[00:46:03] Did you say like Biodome?
[00:46:05] Like Biodome?
[00:46:06] It's like in the army now.
[00:46:08] I heard they were trying to make it the anti-musical musical
[00:46:10] because I guess musicals were too effeminate for them
[00:46:13] because they wanted to make it a more masculine version of a non-musical,
[00:46:16] but I'm like-
[00:46:18] A lot of guys already like musicals anyway, so I don't know why they do it.
[00:46:20] They do.
[00:46:21] I love musicals.
[00:46:21] Yeah.
[00:46:22] I used to say I hated them, and it turns out I was wrong.
[00:46:25] You were wrong.
[00:46:26] Then I watched Joker.
[00:46:27] What do you think, Kevin?
[00:46:28] I think he has some thoughts about this too.
[00:46:30] Like what are your thoughts on that kind of defense?
[00:46:32] My thoughts are just like, again, you know, my partner said it best,
[00:46:36] which is when Marvel's was struggling, which I think is a great movie,
[00:46:41] one of the most fun I've had in the MCU,
[00:46:44] and that's saying a lot considering how many movies they've got.
[00:46:46] But it flopped primarily in my view because prior to it coming out,
[00:46:51] there was a bunch of negative press,
[00:46:52] and everybody that would have come to the defense was honoring the strike.
[00:46:56] So when the strike ended, it was too late.
[00:46:59] The damage had been done, and nobody cared to watch it, right?
[00:47:02] But then what was the word?
[00:47:03] Oh, is it because it had a black director?
[00:47:05] Is it because it had a female director?
[00:47:06] Is it because it was a female-led thing?
[00:47:08] Is it because there were people of color in it?
[00:47:10] And what she was asking was, well, if Joker flops,
[00:47:13] are they going to start saying, well, if white men make a movie,
[00:47:15] does that mean it's going to flop?
[00:47:17] And I don't think that conversation is going to be had.
[00:47:20] They're floundering, man.
[00:47:21] They're defending and saying we don't get it.
[00:47:25] Man.
[00:47:27] And that's what you want to ā
[00:47:28] you want to make a movie that nobody gets.
[00:47:30] Well, here's my question.
[00:47:31] I know you've seen it.
[00:47:32] Did you get it?
[00:47:34] I haven't seen it.
[00:47:36] I saw it.
[00:47:37] I didn't get it.
[00:47:40] It just went on way too long for me.
[00:47:42] It was just a little too much.
[00:47:46] But it was not even enough.
[00:47:48] It's one of those deals where watch it to talk shit, pretty much.
[00:47:54] Watch it just so you can be part of the conversation.
[00:47:56] But it's not something you want to be like, oh, man,
[00:47:58] I can't wait to go see it.
[00:47:59] No.
[00:48:00] This is shitty because, like you said,
[00:48:04] because it's a white man going,
[00:48:06] I know what art is, not you.
[00:48:09] And if it was a woman or if it was a person of color,
[00:48:12] it'd be literally ā they'd talk shit,
[00:48:14] like we talked about in the last episode.
[00:48:15] They'd say, oh, that's why we don't let you guys make movies.
[00:48:18] You know?
[00:48:19] Oh, that's the last time we get a black director.
[00:48:21] Oh, that's the last time we get a Latina director
[00:48:22] or a female director because look what happens, right?
[00:48:25] But because it's these old white guys,
[00:48:28] the guy did The Hangover and Joker.
[00:48:30] Okay.
[00:48:30] I mean, I guess.
[00:48:33] Mr. Creepy, right?
[00:48:34] I didn't realize that.
[00:48:35] Yeah, exactly.
[00:48:36] The Hangover.
[00:48:37] He also did the old school, I think.
[00:48:38] Basically movies that I was not a fan of.
[00:48:41] You know?
[00:48:41] Not my kind of thing.
[00:48:42] I mean, I laugh at it.
[00:48:43] Remember the character that he played in those movies?
[00:48:46] No.
[00:48:46] The character was in the movies?
[00:48:47] Yeah, he was in those movies.
[00:48:49] He was the guy that was smelling people's feet,
[00:48:51] like smelling that lady's feet in the ā
[00:48:52] and he was like all ā
[00:48:53] he was always, I don't know, smelling things.
[00:48:55] I think his character is Mr. Creepy.
[00:48:57] Anyway.
[00:48:58] Todd Phillips.
[00:48:58] He's creepy in real life.
[00:49:00] Todd Phillips, there you go.
[00:49:00] But yeah, like The Hangover and here's Joker.
[00:49:02] You got to ā
[00:49:04] I enjoyed the first film,
[00:49:05] and here we are talking about it again.
[00:49:06] But I think it's shitty because the excuses are shitty.
[00:49:09] The fact that because it's an old white guy saying,
[00:49:12] you just don't get it, you're wrong.
[00:49:14] But if it were the way around,
[00:49:15] that's what irks me the most.
[00:49:16] There's plenty of films that were great.
[00:49:18] Yeah.
[00:49:19] If I got a dollar every time an old white man told me that,
[00:49:23] I might be able to buy a house.
[00:49:25] There you go.
[00:49:26] We need Ella to direct the next film.
[00:49:29] I'm directing the next Joker.
[00:49:31] Yeah, it's going to be a silent film.
[00:49:32] Are you going to hire Gaga again?
[00:49:33] I know you're a Gaga fan.
[00:49:34] Yeah, I'm going to give Gaga a second chance,
[00:49:35] but it's going to be a silent film with puppets.
[00:49:38] It's actually going to be a Muppet version.
[00:49:39] And it must be in 3D,
[00:49:41] but only in the old school red and blue glasses.
[00:49:45] Yeah.
[00:49:45] Yeah, everyone gets a pair.
[00:49:47] We're bringing 3D movies back.
[00:49:49] I want the seats that shake.
[00:49:51] Oh, yeah.
[00:49:51] We need the little buzzer in the seat
[00:49:53] that every time something happens,
[00:49:54] we're like, oh, something happens.
[00:49:56] They should have at least had ā
[00:49:57] if it was like a musical,
[00:49:58] I think they should have at least had Batman in there
[00:50:00] to do that really growly voice singing in there.
[00:50:03] I haven't seen the movie, so.
[00:50:04] I can just ā
[00:50:05] You know, like try to ā
[00:50:07] It's just bad, dude.
[00:50:08] It's just bad.
[00:50:09] If the Batusi wasn't done at least once,
[00:50:10] I'll be very disappointed.
[00:50:12] Didn't Prince make a dope Batman video?
[00:50:14] I'm just going to say.
[00:50:14] Yes, he did.
[00:50:15] It was very dope.
[00:50:16] There we go, Batdance.
[00:50:17] But, guys, we'll move forward here
[00:50:19] into the night with recommendations
[00:50:21] just to close out the show.
[00:50:23] And, of course, you know,
[00:50:24] I want to just thank everybody for listening.
[00:50:27] Make sure you follow the show
[00:50:28] at My Primo's Podcast
[00:50:29] and follow at Mexamerican as well.
[00:50:31] Go check out the show.
[00:50:33] So, you know,
[00:50:33] we have a lot of fun on the show here,
[00:50:35] but let's just not forget
[00:50:35] that this is about presenting our stories,
[00:50:39] our culture,
[00:50:39] our community out there,
[00:50:40] and let's just go support each other.
[00:50:42] You know?
[00:50:43] Like I said,
[00:50:43] let's not go burn dollars at the theater
[00:50:45] and watch the fruity films
[00:50:47] that apparently we don't understand.
[00:50:48] Let's go watch our stories.
[00:50:50] Let's go see our faces.
[00:50:51] Let's go see our art.
[00:50:52] You know, whatever it may be.
[00:50:53] So definitely check that out.
[00:50:55] But recommendations.
[00:50:57] Let's start with Javi, man.
[00:50:59] What's something that you recommend
[00:50:59] for the primos to check out?
[00:51:01] Like, be it whatever it may be, man.
[00:51:02] It may be a movie, TV, a book,
[00:51:04] whatever you're into right now.
[00:51:06] On Hulu, there's this show called This Fool.
[00:51:10] I don't know if y'all have checked that out or not yet.
[00:51:12] Never heard of it.
[00:51:12] Oh, yeah.
[00:51:14] Oh, yeah.
[00:51:14] I mean, I'm digging that.
[00:51:16] I mean, it gets kind of,
[00:51:16] it goes off the rails a little bit
[00:51:18] towards the end,
[00:51:18] but I love it.
[00:51:19] It is great.
[00:51:21] I love the mom.
[00:51:23] So that's cool.
[00:51:24] Also, it's,
[00:51:25] I was telling Nino that
[00:51:27] re-watching Scarface,
[00:51:29] but just specifically
[00:51:31] for the times where
[00:51:32] he should be speaking Spanish
[00:51:33] and he doesn't,
[00:51:35] that's hilarious to me too.
[00:51:37] Like, everybody's speaking Spanish.
[00:51:38] And so he's speaking with a bad accent
[00:51:40] is not Spanish.
[00:51:42] That's what I'm saying.
[00:51:43] Are you sure?
[00:51:43] It is just like,
[00:51:45] you know,
[00:51:45] Spanish, Spanish,
[00:51:46] and like,
[00:51:46] amen, conyo.
[00:51:47] Like, you can't just say conyo
[00:51:48] like for everything.
[00:51:49] It's horrible.
[00:51:50] So, yeah,
[00:51:51] maybe a drinking game
[00:51:52] or something like that
[00:51:53] for water.
[00:51:54] I don't want to,
[00:51:55] you know.
[00:51:55] I like that.
[00:51:55] I like that.
[00:51:56] I like that.
[00:51:57] It always reminded me
[00:51:57] when I think of Scarface
[00:51:58] and I think of Pacino,
[00:52:00] for some reason,
[00:52:01] I always remember
[00:52:01] Mark Anthony was an actor
[00:52:03] and I feel like he was
[00:52:04] Yeah, he played a bad guy,
[00:52:05] right?
[00:52:06] He played a bad guy.
[00:52:07] The substitute, right?
[00:52:07] He was like the gangster guy.
[00:52:09] Yeah.
[00:52:10] Yep.
[00:52:10] And he was in
[00:52:12] Only the Strong
[00:52:13] with Mark Dacascos
[00:52:15] where he teaches them
[00:52:16] street capoeira
[00:52:16] in the inner city of Miami.
[00:52:18] Oh, I remember that movie.
[00:52:20] I don't remember
[00:52:20] he was in there.
[00:52:22] That's awesome.
[00:52:22] He was in that movie, man.
[00:52:23] He had a ponytail.
[00:52:24] That's on my list now.
[00:52:25] There you go.
[00:52:26] Only the Strong.
[00:52:27] That's not my recommendation,
[00:52:28] though,
[00:52:28] but definitely a fun,
[00:52:30] fun-filled time had by all
[00:52:31] because he's now
[00:52:32] the Iron Chef.
[00:52:32] He runs Iron Chef,
[00:52:33] Mark Dacascos?
[00:52:34] He is.
[00:52:35] Really?
[00:52:35] He is now the dude
[00:52:36] that comes out
[00:52:37] with the shaved head
[00:52:37] and is like,
[00:52:38] Iron Chef.
[00:52:39] He's that dude.
[00:52:40] Yeah, I've never seen
[00:52:41] him at a convention before.
[00:52:43] Oh, yeah?
[00:52:43] You don't see him pleased.
[00:52:45] Did he cook for you?
[00:52:46] No, it was a cool experience.
[00:52:47] I just,
[00:52:47] I thought that was really cool.
[00:52:49] But like,
[00:52:49] I liked his other stuff
[00:52:50] and everybody's like,
[00:52:50] yeah, the Iron Chef guy.
[00:52:51] I'm like,
[00:52:51] oh, that too.
[00:52:52] Yeah, okay.
[00:52:54] Mark Dacascos is super karate
[00:52:55] and capoeira.
[00:52:57] It was awesome.
[00:52:58] But for sure,
[00:52:59] this fool's dope.
[00:53:00] I love it.
[00:53:01] It's fun.
[00:53:02] Nina, what about you, man?
[00:53:03] Something that people
[00:53:03] can recommend
[00:53:04] to the Primos out there?
[00:53:05] Something to read,
[00:53:05] watch, listen to?
[00:53:06] Just, you know,
[00:53:07] anything that you feel
[00:53:08] they would dig.
[00:53:09] I'll kind of go along
[00:53:10] with like that small screen
[00:53:11] feel with Javier.
[00:53:13] There's actually a show
[00:53:14] called Primos.
[00:53:15] I don't know
[00:53:15] if y'all have seen that one.
[00:53:17] But there's one called Primos.
[00:53:19] I'm sorry.
[00:53:20] Freebie, I think,
[00:53:21] is what it's on.
[00:53:22] Interesting show.
[00:53:23] Great.
[00:53:24] Yeah, great show.
[00:53:26] Really dig that one.
[00:53:27] Other than that,
[00:53:29] right now,
[00:53:30] I'm just really deep
[00:53:30] in Mexamerican, obviously.
[00:53:33] You know,
[00:53:34] follow the artists.
[00:53:35] The lore of Mexamerican.
[00:53:37] Yeah, as we feature our artists,
[00:53:39] you know,
[00:53:39] put a call out to everybody
[00:53:41] to, you know,
[00:53:41] go and follow those artists.
[00:53:43] If you can't make it again,
[00:53:44] if you're far away
[00:53:46] or just not available,
[00:53:48] you know,
[00:53:48] follow those artists.
[00:53:49] Give them a shout out.
[00:53:51] Follow their work.
[00:53:52] Follow their Kickstarters.
[00:53:53] You know,
[00:53:54] just support,
[00:53:54] support, support.
[00:53:56] It's really the main thing.
[00:53:57] And then, again,
[00:53:58] Mexamerican.
[00:53:58] Come check us out.
[00:54:00] Mexamerican.
[00:54:01] All right.
[00:54:01] Elia, what about you?
[00:54:02] It's something that's,
[00:54:03] I mean,
[00:54:04] just give us some,
[00:54:05] give us an update.
[00:54:06] Did you watch any more
[00:54:07] Primos the cartoon?
[00:54:08] No.
[00:54:09] I,
[00:54:09] I need,
[00:54:10] I need,
[00:54:11] I need a minute from it.
[00:54:13] But,
[00:54:13] I will tell you
[00:54:14] what I have been consuming.
[00:54:16] Uh-oh.
[00:54:17] So,
[00:54:18] tiny hands.
[00:54:18] Not so much recommendations,
[00:54:20] but I've been on a very big,
[00:54:22] I'm going to consume
[00:54:23] Caucasian media
[00:54:25] and see what I like.
[00:54:27] So,
[00:54:27] first of all,
[00:54:28] started and finished
[00:54:29] Sex and the City.
[00:54:31] I started during my break,
[00:54:32] finished it.
[00:54:33] The whole thing?
[00:54:36] Yeah,
[00:54:36] no,
[00:54:37] it was like,
[00:54:37] I liked Sex and the City,
[00:54:38] dude.
[00:54:38] I watched it when it came out too.
[00:54:40] So,
[00:54:40] yeah,
[00:54:40] it was,
[00:54:40] it was okay.
[00:54:41] I don't like any of
[00:54:43] the characters
[00:54:44] except Samantha.
[00:54:45] And then,
[00:54:46] when I went to go watch
[00:54:47] the second,
[00:54:48] like the,
[00:54:48] the reboot,
[00:54:49] just like that,
[00:54:50] and I found out
[00:54:51] Samantha wasn't in it,
[00:54:52] I'm like,
[00:54:52] I hate this.
[00:54:53] This is not why
[00:54:54] Samantha made the show.
[00:54:57] Um,
[00:54:57] I know that doesn't mean
[00:54:58] anything to anyone,
[00:54:59] but like,
[00:54:59] I,
[00:55:00] like,
[00:55:01] um,
[00:55:01] so yeah,
[00:55:01] I,
[00:55:02] I see why.
[00:55:03] That's the only name
[00:55:03] I remember.
[00:55:04] Yeah.
[00:55:05] Did you see this?
[00:55:06] What's the only name?
[00:55:07] When you said that,
[00:55:07] it was the sex.
[00:55:08] You're such a Samantha,
[00:55:10] you know,
[00:55:11] you're such a Samantha.
[00:55:12] Iconic queen.
[00:55:13] Um,
[00:55:14] but I'm,
[00:55:14] I'm still going to continue
[00:55:15] watching,
[00:55:16] uh,
[00:55:17] and just like,
[00:55:17] or just like that.
[00:55:18] I think it's,
[00:55:18] I don't even know
[00:55:19] the name of it,
[00:55:20] but,
[00:55:21] um,
[00:55:21] they had more diversity
[00:55:23] in the newer one,
[00:55:24] of course,
[00:55:25] because like in the nineties,
[00:55:26] they wouldn't let tan people
[00:55:26] on TV,
[00:55:27] I guess,
[00:55:28] whatever.
[00:55:28] Um,
[00:55:29] but yeah,
[00:55:30] so watched it,
[00:55:31] enjoyed it.
[00:55:32] It was okay.
[00:55:33] Um,
[00:55:33] not my favorite series.
[00:55:34] Um,
[00:55:35] and then right now,
[00:55:37] I'm watching,
[00:55:38] uh,
[00:55:39] the secret lives
[00:55:40] of Mormon wives.
[00:55:43] Whoa.
[00:55:43] And it is insane.
[00:55:46] Like,
[00:55:46] they,
[00:55:47] like,
[00:55:48] they kind of party harder
[00:55:49] than I do.
[00:55:50] Like,
[00:55:51] and it's,
[00:55:52] it's crazy.
[00:55:53] So that's the next reality
[00:55:55] trash TV I'm going through
[00:55:57] right now.
[00:55:58] I used to stay in Utah
[00:56:00] and,
[00:56:00] uh,
[00:56:00] yeah,
[00:56:01] it's a whole other world.
[00:56:02] Take place in Utah.
[00:56:03] Yeah.
[00:56:04] It's a whole other world over there.
[00:56:06] Man.
[00:56:06] I don't know,
[00:56:06] Javi,
[00:56:06] that speaks volumes,
[00:56:08] man.
[00:56:08] Just like,
[00:56:08] your vibe.
[00:56:09] Like,
[00:56:09] yeah,
[00:56:10] I party with Mormons.
[00:56:11] It's like,
[00:56:12] kind of scary.
[00:56:13] We don't know what you do.
[00:56:14] You know what I mean?
[00:56:14] I don't know.
[00:56:17] That's for Javi to know.
[00:56:19] Yeah,
[00:56:19] Javi to know.
[00:56:20] And there's nothing in that state
[00:56:21] that has caffeine in it.
[00:56:23] And they use fry sauce.
[00:56:24] They're just a little,
[00:56:25] a little interesting tidbit there.
[00:56:27] When you go to McDonald's,
[00:56:28] they have fry sauce,
[00:56:29] which is their own special thing.
[00:56:32] Yeah.
[00:56:33] anyway.
[00:56:34] No,
[00:56:34] it's,
[00:56:35] no,
[00:56:35] yeah,
[00:56:36] for sure.
[00:56:36] Cause like on the show,
[00:56:37] I think it was like,
[00:56:38] it's not an alcohol state.
[00:56:40] So it's like,
[00:56:41] there's only soda bars every so often,
[00:56:43] but yeah,
[00:56:43] there's no caffeine.
[00:56:44] The soda.
[00:56:45] It was so,
[00:56:45] I'm like,
[00:56:46] wow.
[00:56:48] It's a whole culture.
[00:56:49] Weird.
[00:56:50] Yeah.
[00:56:50] Beautiful country though.
[00:56:51] It's like really,
[00:56:52] really nice.
[00:56:52] Yeah.
[00:56:53] It looks pretty.
[00:56:54] It looks pretty,
[00:56:55] but yeah.
[00:56:56] So that's like my trash TV.
[00:56:58] I do want to go on a quick rant
[00:56:59] about a certain movie.
[00:57:01] I watched it for the first time
[00:57:02] this weekend.
[00:57:03] Ooh,
[00:57:03] what is it?
[00:57:04] Pinocchio.
[00:57:05] Disney's Pinocchio.
[00:57:07] The OG.
[00:57:08] The OG one.
[00:57:09] Okay.
[00:57:10] Okay.
[00:57:11] Some of it doesn't age.
[00:57:13] I don't think,
[00:57:14] okay.
[00:57:15] So I cared more about the,
[00:57:19] the boys being trafficked to become donkeys issue.
[00:57:24] Then I cared about any of the entire plot.
[00:57:26] I'm like,
[00:57:26] leave it behind.
[00:57:27] They don't dress it again.
[00:57:27] I was so upset.
[00:57:29] I'm like,
[00:57:30] I don't care about Pinocchio and Geppetto anymore.
[00:57:32] Like,
[00:57:32] and then Jiminy Cricket,
[00:57:33] useless as all hell.
[00:57:35] Useless.
[00:57:35] Okay.
[00:57:36] One of the conspiracy theories is that donkey from Shrek
[00:57:39] was one of those kids.
[00:57:43] Really?
[00:57:44] Oh my God.
[00:57:45] The lore.
[00:57:45] It's,
[00:57:46] you know what?
[00:57:47] I'll accept that.
[00:57:49] If they will give me that.
[00:57:50] What fairy tale did he come from?
[00:57:51] You know?
[00:57:51] Exactly.
[00:57:52] That's so true.
[00:57:54] Shrek.
[00:57:55] Shrek knows more than anyone.
[00:57:57] You guys.
[00:57:57] Shrek is love.
[00:57:58] Shrek is love.
[00:57:59] Shrek goes deep.
[00:58:00] Shrek goes deep.
[00:58:01] You got to fill back them layers.
[00:58:03] He goes deep.
[00:58:05] Feel that hole.
[00:58:06] Feel that hole in that spot.
[00:58:07] At the end of the day,
[00:58:08] Shrek.
[00:58:09] Shrek.
[00:58:09] And look,
[00:58:10] that little kid grew up to make dragon babies.
[00:58:13] So,
[00:58:13] I'm okay with that.
[00:58:14] That's true.
[00:58:14] Yeah.
[00:58:15] He got busy.
[00:58:16] He got busy.
[00:58:17] There's a lot there to like that.
[00:58:18] But no,
[00:58:18] yeah,
[00:58:18] Pinocchio was just like,
[00:58:20] it was just so,
[00:58:20] I'm like,
[00:58:21] I don't even care about Pinocchio anymore.
[00:58:24] Can we resolve this issue going on?
[00:58:28] But no,
[00:58:29] it was,
[00:58:29] it was a ride that I was like,
[00:58:31] I don't care.
[00:58:32] It's just like trafficking happens.
[00:58:34] Just accept it and move on.
[00:58:35] Yeah,
[00:58:35] move on.
[00:58:36] We're still going to find this puppet's dad in a whale.
[00:58:38] What you're saying is you need to have the,
[00:58:40] the,
[00:58:41] the taken Pinocchio sequel.
[00:58:44] Yeah.
[00:58:45] I'm going to find the monkeys and I have a special set of skills.
[00:58:48] Right.
[00:58:48] I'll watch it.
[00:58:49] I'll fund it.
[00:58:51] Look at it.
[00:58:52] Make it happen,
[00:58:52] man.
[00:58:53] I'm done with Liam Neeson and everything.
[00:58:54] I'll draw the forbidden comic,
[00:58:56] the sequel.
[00:58:57] Done.
[00:58:58] Just,
[00:58:58] just,
[00:58:58] it's always weird when you see like Liam Neeson.
[00:59:01] I've seen Liam Neeson in like action roles,
[00:59:04] right?
[00:59:04] Like a hero,
[00:59:05] a bad guy.
[00:59:06] He fought a wolf on a mountain.
[00:59:08] You're like,
[00:59:09] he did a bunch of crazy stuff.
[00:59:10] Right.
[00:59:11] And then I don't know where you see him do.
[00:59:12] Like Liam Neeson's,
[00:59:13] uh,
[00:59:14] and a romantic comedy.
[00:59:16] And it kind of throws me off.
[00:59:17] Like he's going to choke her in the bathroom,
[00:59:19] right?
[00:59:19] Like he's not going to romantic comedies before that though.
[00:59:21] That's the thing.
[00:59:22] No,
[00:59:22] sorry.
[00:59:23] No,
[00:59:24] it's like Stallone.
[00:59:25] I'm in love with you.
[00:59:26] Like,
[00:59:26] like it doesn't work.
[00:59:27] Like,
[00:59:28] you know,
[00:59:28] he's Stallone.
[00:59:29] He doesn't do like Oscar for the romance.
[00:59:32] I heart Huckabees or whatever.
[00:59:34] You know what I mean?
[00:59:35] From the train.
[00:59:36] Now that,
[00:59:36] it wasn't a,
[00:59:37] uh,
[00:59:38] stop for my mom.
[00:59:39] I'll shoot.
[00:59:39] That's a classic.
[00:59:40] I actually saw that in theaters.
[00:59:41] Ah,
[00:59:41] that one was pretty funny.
[00:59:43] Tango and cash.
[00:59:43] See,
[00:59:44] there's no romance there.
[00:59:45] It's a bad-ass him and Kurt Russell.
[00:59:47] I'm sorry.
[00:59:47] I digress.
[00:59:48] Uh,
[00:59:49] Kevin Garcia,
[00:59:49] what about you,
[00:59:50] man?
[00:59:50] What do you recommend this week?
[00:59:51] There's a,
[00:59:52] two things that I've been,
[00:59:53] uh,
[00:59:53] or have watched recently that I do want to bring up.
[00:59:56] One is I just saw a,
[00:59:58] a indie is not the right word.
[01:00:00] Um,
[01:00:01] art house,
[01:00:01] maybe a film called a different man starring,
[01:00:04] uh,
[01:00:04] Sebastian Stan,
[01:00:05] you know,
[01:00:05] the winter soldier.
[01:00:06] And this is where he plays a character that has severe,
[01:00:11] severe facial differences.
[01:00:12] And he's got like a lot of makeup on his face to show that.
[01:00:15] Um,
[01:00:16] you know,
[01:00:16] like there've been other movies like the elephant man and things like that
[01:00:18] before.
[01:00:18] Wow.
[01:00:19] What makes this interesting is that the,
[01:00:21] one of the other major,
[01:00:22] major roles in the movie is Adam Pearson,
[01:00:25] who is a man who is born with severe facial differences.
[01:00:28] And that becomes a plot point throughout the movie.
[01:00:31] And it's really good.
[01:00:32] Um,
[01:00:33] it,
[01:00:33] it,
[01:00:34] it straddles the line between being preachy and entertaining,
[01:00:37] and it never quite becomes preachy.
[01:00:40] And I appreciate that.
[01:00:40] Like you can still have a very clear message.
[01:00:42] But it doesn't ever like hit you over the head with it.
[01:00:45] Instead.
[01:00:45] It's like,
[01:00:46] what the hell am I watching?
[01:00:47] There's body horror halfway through this.
[01:00:48] And then suddenly it's comedy.
[01:00:49] And also there's,
[01:00:50] you know,
[01:00:50] it's weird.
[01:00:51] And it's great.
[01:00:52] Um,
[01:00:52] so highly recommend that if you go,
[01:00:54] if you want to seek that out,
[01:00:55] uh,
[01:00:55] although fair warning,
[01:00:57] there is brief moments of body horror,
[01:00:59] a little bit of Cronenberg stuff.
[01:01:00] The other thing that I watched recently that I really need to recommend
[01:01:03] that I cannot recommend enough,
[01:01:05] um,
[01:01:05] is chaos spelled with a K K A O S,
[01:01:09] which is a Netflix series starring Jeff Goldblum.
[01:01:11] And just about everybody you've ever heard of all the way from him to,
[01:01:14] um,
[01:01:15] Eddie Susie Izzard,
[01:01:16] who's in there.
[01:01:17] You know,
[01:01:17] they got a bunch of people in this,
[01:01:18] in the show.
[01:01:19] It is beautiful.
[01:01:20] It's a bit horrific.
[01:01:21] It's great.
[01:01:22] And then,
[01:01:23] you know,
[01:01:23] what happens?
[01:01:23] They just today announced that they're going to cancel it before season two.
[01:01:26] Yep.
[01:01:27] And,
[01:01:27] uh,
[01:01:28] it is so good.
[01:01:30] Now,
[01:01:30] admittedly,
[01:01:30] as I was watching it,
[01:01:31] I'm on the second.
[01:01:33] Yeah.
[01:01:33] I'm on the second to last episode.
[01:01:35] And I'm like,
[01:01:35] when this resolves,
[01:01:36] there's no reason to do a sequel.
[01:01:37] I guess it's a really good,
[01:01:39] just one and done season.
[01:01:40] The last episode is like,
[01:01:41] no,
[01:01:41] no,
[01:01:42] we're going to do more.
[01:01:42] We're going to do more.
[01:01:43] And I'm like,
[01:01:44] okay,
[01:01:44] I'm down for this.
[01:01:45] I'll see where they go with this.
[01:01:46] And no,
[01:01:46] we're not going to see where they go with this.
[01:01:48] I'm going to cry.
[01:01:48] I was so excited for that series,
[01:01:52] but,
[01:01:53] but I want to point out tying this to a different man.
[01:01:56] There you've heard of like,
[01:01:58] um,
[01:01:59] uh,
[01:01:59] what is it?
[01:01:59] Hamilton having like colorblind casting and stuff.
[01:02:02] Um,
[01:02:03] chaos does that as well.
[01:02:04] There's a lot of big name stars,
[01:02:05] but it not only does it not matter what your,
[01:02:08] you know,
[01:02:08] racial or national or ethnic background is.
[01:02:11] There's also body differences throughout the movie that are not plot
[01:02:15] points.
[01:02:15] They're just people who have different bodies.
[01:02:17] And it's like,
[01:02:19] I see that the kind of people that would go after,
[01:02:21] you know,
[01:02:23] Marvel's or,
[01:02:24] you know,
[01:02:25] whatever for not being straight white male casts are going to be like,
[01:02:29] Oh,
[01:02:29] I don't like this.
[01:02:30] And we should cancel it.
[01:02:31] Uh,
[01:02:31] you know,
[01:02:32] I just,
[01:02:32] heck,
[01:02:32] I just saw an article today that said one of my favorite games,
[01:02:35] um,
[01:02:35] her,
[01:02:35] the horizon series on PlayStation is getting a lot of hate right now saying
[01:02:39] that,
[01:02:39] that there it's fake being propped up because there's like LGBT themes in
[01:02:43] it.
[01:02:43] And it's like,
[01:02:44] of course that's going to make people think it's fake when I've been
[01:02:46] enjoying it since I first played it,
[01:02:47] you know?
[01:02:48] Yeah.
[01:02:50] Kevin,
[01:02:51] you did hear they're making the ghost of Susima ghost of Yote.
[01:02:54] Yes.
[01:02:54] I am excited about that.
[01:02:56] I'm super excited about that.
[01:02:57] And not only female,
[01:02:58] but,
[01:02:58] but middle-aged,
[01:02:59] which,
[01:02:59] Oh,
[01:03:00] that's going to piss people off,
[01:03:01] but it looks so good.
[01:03:02] And I,
[01:03:03] and I,
[01:03:03] and I,
[01:03:04] I was late coming into that game.
[01:03:05] My friend,
[01:03:06] my brother got me into it eventually about a couple of years after it came
[01:03:09] out,
[01:03:09] but,
[01:03:09] Oh man,
[01:03:10] I loved it so much.
[01:03:10] And that sequel,
[01:03:11] just every little bit of it we've seen beautiful.
[01:03:14] It looks perfect.
[01:03:14] Video games,
[01:03:15] man,
[01:03:15] video games.
[01:03:16] Cause,
[01:03:17] that's what I've been doing,
[01:03:18] man.
[01:03:18] I've been playing a lot of games recently.
[01:03:19] So I've been in my,
[01:03:19] my,
[01:03:20] my deal here,
[01:03:21] but recommendations there's,
[01:03:22] I've been doing kind of a,
[01:03:25] a class.
[01:03:26] I get corrupted and then I go get cleansed kind of deal.
[01:03:28] Cause I,
[01:03:29] I like my brain.
[01:03:30] I need to,
[01:03:30] cause if I go to bed and I like,
[01:03:32] here's a deal do it.
[01:03:34] And that's an older game.
[01:03:35] So just bear with me,
[01:03:36] but I do recommend it for the,
[01:03:37] the gamer that's comfortable with the context of which the violence takes
[01:03:41] place.
[01:03:41] It's not a gore deal at all,
[01:03:43] at all.
[01:03:44] It's not hotline Miami.
[01:03:46] Anybody hear the name?
[01:03:47] Know the name?
[01:03:49] Hotline Miami.
[01:03:51] Hotline Miami is an eight bit looking like Nintendo issue.
[01:03:55] Game.
[01:03:56] Okay.
[01:03:56] But it's the bloodiest like game you'd play because literally it's a
[01:04:00] one hit kill kind of game.
[01:04:02] And the premise of the story is what really sells you.
[01:04:04] I'll put it to you this way.
[01:04:05] I rediscovered it because my son had an interest in him.
[01:04:08] He's 15 now.
[01:04:10] And I said,
[01:04:10] fine,
[01:04:10] let's do it.
[01:04:11] Let's do hotline Miami.
[01:04:12] Cause I did it at one point.
[01:04:13] But when I tell you that the,
[01:04:14] the,
[01:04:14] the,
[01:04:15] here's the pitch for it,
[01:04:16] it's drive the game.
[01:04:18] Okay.
[01:04:18] The Ryan Gosling movie,
[01:04:19] it's drive the game.
[01:04:20] The guy literally gets a phone call and it's coded.
[01:04:23] Hey,
[01:04:23] I need a babysitter on fifth street.
[01:04:25] I got eight kids and then he up and I'll bring the toys,
[01:04:28] you know,
[01:04:28] all coded messages and you show up and you clear house.
[01:04:31] You basically kill everybody in there,
[01:04:33] but the story stacks on top of each other where you're learning that
[01:04:36] who's making these phone calls.
[01:04:38] Why are you being forced to doing this?
[01:04:40] Cause the characters are eight bit characters.
[01:04:41] So they're not like a GTA,
[01:04:43] a real life like looking game.
[01:04:44] It's all like eight bit looking games,
[01:04:46] but it is bloody.
[01:04:47] You die at one hit,
[01:04:49] but it's that repeat cycle.
[01:04:50] You instantly respond and go again until you can beat the level.
[01:04:52] But the story is what it puts me in there.
[01:04:55] Everything from,
[01:04:56] uh,
[01:04:56] the Russell American war,
[01:04:58] uh,
[01:04:58] things from like,
[01:05:00] there's some really like dark themes in this,
[01:05:02] in the,
[01:05:03] in the story itself.
[01:05:04] And you don't really pay attention as a,
[01:05:06] as a kid playing it.
[01:05:08] But when you're of the right mind,
[01:05:10] it opens your brain up to this whole different dark world.
[01:05:13] So I,
[01:05:14] I would say I recommend it for those that,
[01:05:16] that are not won't shy away from it,
[01:05:18] that are comfortable with the context of it,
[01:05:20] because there is,
[01:05:21] it's violence and there are some,
[01:05:23] uh,
[01:05:24] there is one essay theme that shows up in there.
[01:05:27] They even say,
[01:05:27] if you're not comfortable with this skip,
[01:05:29] like it's,
[01:05:29] it,
[01:05:29] it gives you that option,
[01:05:31] but it,
[01:05:32] it drives home the message.
[01:05:33] It does all this while having a retro vibe,
[01:05:35] right?
[01:05:36] A hundred percent.
[01:05:37] It little face place in eighties,
[01:05:39] Miami talking about Scarface.
[01:05:40] It's like,
[01:05:41] it's Scarface and drive with the music,
[01:05:43] the,
[01:05:44] the clothes,
[01:05:45] the guy drives a DeLorean to go kill people.
[01:05:47] Like that's the whole deal.
[01:05:48] Like he is all about that eighties vibe,
[01:05:50] that synth music.
[01:05:52] If you play the music,
[01:05:53] it makes you want to go commit a crime.
[01:05:55] Like that's how good the music is.
[01:05:56] Like it's good.
[01:05:58] Grand Theft Auto three did that for me the first time I played it.
[01:06:00] Like,
[01:06:00] yeah,
[01:06:00] it's like my city.
[01:06:01] Right.
[01:06:01] But like,
[01:06:02] it's,
[01:06:02] it's such a deep game.
[01:06:03] It's great.
[01:06:04] My kid,
[01:06:05] like,
[01:06:05] for his birthday,
[01:06:06] I got him the sequel.
[01:06:07] It was like on sale for like a dollar 50.
[01:06:08] It's like a 10 year old game.
[01:06:10] Right.
[01:06:10] But the point is,
[01:06:11] it looks really good.
[01:06:13] I'm a,
[01:06:13] I'm a,
[01:06:13] I'm a big fan of,
[01:06:14] I know the retro stuff is kind of overdone in gaming a lot,
[01:06:16] but I'm actually a big fan of it.
[01:06:18] And the vibe you're talking about kind of reminds me of a game I played
[01:06:20] right before the pandemic called Katana zero,
[01:06:23] which is a side scroller,
[01:06:24] but also is done in this retro vibe.
[01:06:26] And it's,
[01:06:26] you're like a samurai who is also maybe a time traveler or maybe psychic,
[01:06:31] or maybe he's amnesiac.
[01:06:32] And it's all that at once.
[01:06:33] And it's like,
[01:06:34] yeah,
[01:06:35] I could dig that.
[01:06:36] This game has,
[01:06:37] it's like,
[01:06:38] you're,
[01:06:38] you're watching a Tarantino movie.
[01:06:41] Cause it's literally,
[01:06:41] it's bloody.
[01:06:42] There's tons of dialogue.
[01:06:44] There are cut scenes,
[01:06:45] but it's all eight bit.
[01:06:45] And then it flips and it becomes memento with like reservoir dogs kind of mixed
[01:06:50] together at the end.
[01:06:50] It's,
[01:06:51] it's a,
[01:06:51] it's really,
[01:06:52] really good.
[01:06:52] I really recommend it for story and gameplay wise.
[01:06:55] Your hook.
[01:06:55] It's like super cheap.
[01:06:56] It's on everything.
[01:06:57] It's on every single console,
[01:06:59] computer switch.
[01:06:59] It's on everything.
[01:07:00] So definitely check that out.
[01:07:02] And why I play that.
[01:07:03] Then I have to kind of like cleanse my eyeballs and kind of like eye bleach.
[01:07:08] There's a show that I kind of fell into watching and no idea I was going to love it as much as I love it.
[01:07:13] And I've been,
[01:07:13] I've me and my wife have been watching it nonstop and it's a show called Bob and Abby Shola.
[01:07:19] Have you guys heard of this or know of this?
[01:07:22] It's a sitcom where it's a white,
[01:07:25] old white guy has a heart attack,
[01:07:28] goes to the hospital,
[01:07:30] falls in love with a nurse that's from Nigeria,
[01:07:32] from Lagos.
[01:07:33] And they end up having a relationship together and legit like fall in love.
[01:07:38] And it's the whole clash of different cultures,
[01:07:41] you know,
[01:07:41] them getting to know each other,
[01:07:42] you know,
[01:07:43] white guy from Nigeria,
[01:07:46] the mixing of the cultures from everything from the church to the business and the kids.
[01:07:52] It's really,
[01:07:52] really,
[01:07:53] really,
[01:07:53] really heartfelt,
[01:07:54] really funny.
[01:07:55] I am definitely curious.
[01:07:58] Never knew much about the Nigerian like home life and culture.
[01:08:02] And they really respect it from what I've read online about it.
[01:08:04] It's kind of true to force.
[01:08:06] And it's a lot of correlations with the Latino culture to everything about like,
[01:08:10] Hey,
[01:08:10] stop crying,
[01:08:10] get over it,
[01:08:11] go to work.
[01:08:12] You'll be fine.
[01:08:12] The harder you work,
[01:08:13] the better you'll be.
[01:08:14] Oh,
[01:08:14] you want to dance for a living?
[01:08:15] That's cute,
[01:08:16] but let's get a real job.
[01:08:17] Like all that stuff we kind of grew up with,
[01:08:19] like it's there too.
[01:08:20] So you still kind of connect and you feel seen,
[01:08:22] you know,
[01:08:22] sorry.
[01:08:23] And that is,
[01:08:23] it has a great feel at the end of it.
[01:08:26] It's a great sitcom.
[01:08:27] It has like four or five seasons.
[01:08:28] So it's worth watching.
[01:08:29] There you go.
[01:08:30] There you go.
[01:08:30] To my Rex for this week,
[01:08:32] murder and then love,
[01:08:35] which,
[01:08:35] which sums up my primos podcast in the best way.
[01:08:40] That's the way for the most.
[01:08:41] But of course,
[01:08:41] thank you guys for listening.
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[01:08:43] of course,
[01:08:43] our guests,
[01:08:44] Javi and Nino.
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[01:09:01] we're all primos.
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