S7 EP17: Deadpool & Wolverine Spoiler Cast with John Aviña

[00:00:00] What's up, Primos, Primas, and Primes? Welcome to my, My Primos, My Primos, My Primo Podcast. My name is Freddy. My name is Kevin Garcia. My name is Elia Maria Matriz. This is Chukumi, whenever I can make it. My Primos Podcast discusses all things fandom and pop culture. From comics, movies, to whatever obsession we have this week. But with a Latine, Latine, Latine perspective. Remember, we're all Primos. We're all Primes. We're all Primos. No matter what part of the world we're from.

[00:00:35] Who's gonna lead us off? Maybe John should do it.

[00:00:38] Just throw John in the ring.

[00:00:40] Just throw him in without preparation.

[00:00:42] Dang!

[00:00:43] John, next time you're on, you lead us. This time it's Freddy. He'll show you how it's done.

[00:00:48] He's been on here long enough times to know. But here we go. All right. Three, two, one.

[00:00:55] Que onda, Primos, Primas, and Primes? And welcome back to My Primos Podcast. My name is Primo Freddy.

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[00:01:07] What's up, Kevin?

[00:01:09] There it is, everybody. The phrase we've all missed along with Kevin fills a hole. Kevin fills that hole.

[00:01:15] What happened? How did, how did, like, we all need a Kevin Garcia in our lives become Kevin fills a hole? Like, it was just a very quick transition.

[00:01:22] I don't remember how it transpired.

[00:01:23] We can't, if there was only a way, maybe like some method that-

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[00:01:31] Yeah, archives of conversations.

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[00:01:37] What website would we go to?

[00:01:39] A challenge, Primos. Myprimospodcast.com.

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[00:01:43] It is. And it's ours.

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[00:01:44] Check it out, Primos.

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[00:02:01] So, started there.

[00:02:03] Here we are now.

[00:02:04] But, of course, with me tonight, coming along back to bring a little sprinkle, a little spice in our direction, Miss Elia Maria Madrid at Spice Illustration.

[00:02:13] Say, what's up, Elia?

[00:02:15] What's up, Elia?

[00:02:16] Hello.

[00:02:17] There it is.

[00:02:18] Correctly.

[00:02:18] Elia, how many followers away are we from 10,000 on TikTok?

[00:02:23] We need to know the update.

[00:02:24] Oh, right.

[00:02:24] Because last time we had a call to action.

[00:02:27] I think it's 700.

[00:02:29] Let me check.

[00:02:31] All right.

[00:02:32] Let's see where-

[00:02:32] Yes, you were so close last time.

[00:02:35] Yeah, a little under 700.

[00:02:38] Again, challenge you, Primos.

[00:02:40] Go out there, follow at Spice Illustrations.

[00:02:43] TikToks get her to 10K.

[00:02:44] We did it for Kevin Garcia.

[00:02:45] Let's do it for her.

[00:02:46] Let's get her there.

[00:02:47] She's awesome.

[00:02:48] Her work's dope.

[00:02:49] It's funny.

[00:02:50] I love it.

[00:02:50] Check out Spice Illustrations.

[00:02:52] Say what's up, Elia, to of course our guest coming back.

[00:02:56] Yeah.

[00:02:57] Mr. John Avina.

[00:02:59] Say what's up, John.

[00:03:01] What's up, John?

[00:03:03] Come on, John.

[00:03:04] That's how you do it.

[00:03:06] Bring it, man.

[00:03:07] Bring it, bring it.

[00:03:07] That's what Chicago's about.

[00:03:09] Well, Mr. John Avina from Avina Comics.

[00:03:12] Thank you for coming on the show.

[00:03:14] We had a blast at Texas Latino Comic Con.

[00:03:16] I know we're working on our D&D episode, so that's there for all the fans to wait for.

[00:03:21] But dude, like here, how have you been?

[00:03:24] How did you enjoy con?

[00:03:25] We didn't have you on the show, so kind of fill us in.

[00:03:29] Where did you come from?

[00:03:29] Where did you go?

[00:03:32] The con was great.

[00:03:34] It was a lot of fun.

[00:03:35] It was cool to be in a room with that many Latin creative people.

[00:03:40] And just like, it didn't feel super niche.

[00:03:44] Like here, whenever there's more than one of us in a room, I'm like, oh, cool.

[00:03:48] Like we made it.

[00:03:50] You smell your own?

[00:03:51] Like there's another one.

[00:03:52] I got a spot on the room.

[00:03:54] Like I've gotten real good at like someone passes by, I was like, it's him.

[00:03:59] My eyebrow starts twitching and there's like two aisles to that way in Artist Alley.

[00:04:03] There's another Latino creator.

[00:04:06] Yeah, because I hear it's a lot of resellers are Latin.

[00:04:08] Like the Funko dealers and stuff.

[00:04:11] But they're just mean.

[00:04:13] They're not here to make friends.

[00:04:14] They're just like here to like buy Funkos and get out of the way.

[00:04:18] So I'm just like, all right, like I'll just keep my books to myself.

[00:04:22] Oh, they're aggressively selling baseball cards and Pokemon cards.

[00:04:27] Yeah, walking around with stacks of like Pokemon cards like this, like it's cash.

[00:04:32] And they're just like, what do you got?

[00:04:34] I was like comics and like whatever.

[00:04:36] And then they're just like throwing cards down to each other and then just buying other cards.

[00:04:41] And they'll be like, see this card.

[00:04:42] This card is almost worth the cost of printing.

[00:04:45] Yeah, right.

[00:04:45] No, really hard not to be nerdy.

[00:04:48] They're always in like jerseys and stuff.

[00:04:50] And I was like, you guys are just trading Pokemon cards.

[00:04:53] Like, yeah, it's a good to be nerdy.

[00:04:55] Yeah.

[00:04:55] Yeah.

[00:04:56] Right.

[00:04:56] Here you say that's reminding me of a video I saw on some social media the other day.

[00:05:00] And it was, you know, these guys were asking, like, who is your cartoon crush when you were a child?

[00:05:05] And a lot of guys are like Kim Possible or blah, blah, blah, or whatever.

[00:05:08] Then you get to one guy and he's like, that sounds kind of nerdy.

[00:05:11] I wouldn't have done that.

[00:05:12] And I was like, okay, you don't have to.

[00:05:16] Kevin, who was your cartoon crush when you were growing up?

[00:05:19] Yeah.

[00:05:21] Go, go, do, do.

[00:05:23] From.

[00:05:26] Oh, really?

[00:05:27] I'm just messing around.

[00:05:28] I'm like, no judgment, but like, I mean, okay.

[00:05:32] We're all about furries here, right?

[00:05:34] I was trying to think what is the least.

[00:05:36] No, literally my thought was what is the least humanoid cartoon character I can possibly think of?

[00:05:40] And I was like, go, go, do, do from Tiny Toon Adventures.

[00:05:44] Yeah.

[00:05:44] Very, very not human.

[00:05:47] As far as I can remember, it's talking about Hello Nurse, man.

[00:05:50] Animaniacs.

[00:05:51] No, no, no.

[00:05:51] This one was like an amorphous, like, thing that was representing the old 1920s color.

[00:05:58] Yeah.

[00:05:59] He had a big rubber hose stuff.

[00:06:00] Yeah.

[00:06:00] Yeah.

[00:06:01] There's a beak and all that.

[00:06:02] I remember, Dodo.

[00:06:03] And there was that and it was a, Katie Kaboom.

[00:06:07] Something about an angry woman, man.

[00:06:09] Something about an angry woman.

[00:06:10] Oh, you know what?

[00:06:11] I remember now.

[00:06:12] I watched Turtles back in the late eighties, early nineties.

[00:06:15] And, you know, when I saw that, that, that reporter.

[00:06:18] Oh.

[00:06:20] Irma.

[00:06:21] She was amazing.

[00:06:22] Irma.

[00:06:23] Irma.

[00:06:24] Do you remember Irma?

[00:06:25] I remember Irma.

[00:06:26] Like, wow, you've been deep.

[00:06:27] Like April's nerdy friend.

[00:06:28] I had.

[00:06:29] With the glasses.

[00:06:30] Yes.

[00:06:31] Yeah.

[00:06:31] With the glasses and like, I think she had like a scarf or something.

[00:06:34] Oh my gosh.

[00:06:34] Or a sweater.

[00:06:36] I thought she was adorable.

[00:06:38] Cool.

[00:06:38] What about you, Elia?

[00:06:40] Childhood cartoon crushes?

[00:06:41] Oh my God.

[00:06:42] Too many.

[00:06:43] Um, I don't, God, I don't remember their, their Japanese names, but, um, Sailor Moon.

[00:06:50] And it was, I like, I, it was my, I guess I had a bisexual awakening at age seven, but it

[00:06:55] was the two tree twins.

[00:06:57] I don't remember their names, but tree twins, like the bad guys.

[00:07:01] Yes.

[00:07:02] Yes.

[00:07:02] Duh.

[00:07:02] I like it.

[00:07:02] I love my bad guys.

[00:07:05] I always have a thing for Sarah Mercury myself.

[00:07:08] Yeah.

[00:07:08] Like out of, but out of, uh, the main five.

[00:07:11] Yeah.

[00:07:11] I was a Sailor Jupiter girl.

[00:07:13] Like.

[00:07:14] Nice.

[00:07:15] Nice.

[00:07:15] I was going to, when you said your awakening, I'm like so many people I know were like Sailor

[00:07:18] Jupiter.

[00:07:19] Yeah.

[00:07:20] No.

[00:07:21] I'm a serious guy.

[00:07:21] Dude, something about Sailor Mars.

[00:07:23] Again, rays at fire, man.

[00:07:26] Someone in West pretty fire.

[00:07:29] I love that show as a kid.

[00:07:31] As a little kid, it was the first time I saw a show where teenagers acted like teenagers.

[00:07:35] And I was like, that's so cool.

[00:07:37] What?

[00:07:40] All right.

[00:07:42] Mine was a Kitty pride from X-Men evolution.

[00:07:46] That hair, that style.

[00:07:48] Yeah.

[00:07:48] Yeah.

[00:07:48] Opening dance sequence.

[00:07:50] I was just like, oh, okay.

[00:07:52] I feel like.

[00:07:52] Yeah.

[00:07:53] It's just like the second X-Men evolution reference we've had in a couple weeks.

[00:07:56] Yeah.

[00:07:57] Last episode, we talked about X-Men evolution and how it was dope when Scott and his brother

[00:08:01] were like the Omega version of their powers.

[00:08:03] And I was like, oh yeah, Havoc and Cyclops.

[00:08:05] I need to go back and watch this series.

[00:08:06] I've only ever seen like a couple episodes of it.

[00:08:08] It's okay.

[00:08:09] The later seasons got kind of.

[00:08:11] Yeah.

[00:08:11] Weirdly like.

[00:08:13] It is what it is.

[00:08:14] But tonight we are here to talk about a few things, but the biggest one of course is Deadpool

[00:08:18] Deadpool.

[00:08:19] Is it Deadpool and Wolverine?

[00:08:21] Deadpool, Ampersand, Wolverine.

[00:08:23] Ampersand, Wolverine.

[00:08:25] Deadpool and friend.

[00:08:26] Deadpool and friend.

[00:08:27] Deadpool and friend.

[00:08:28] Is this going to be a spoiler filled episode?

[00:08:30] I'm saying it up front.

[00:08:31] Yeah.

[00:08:31] It's kind of a spoiler filled.

[00:08:33] It is the biggest movie of the year so far.

[00:08:36] If you haven't seen it, you're not going to anytime soon.

[00:08:39] So spoilers.

[00:08:40] Yep.

[00:08:41] And you've probably been spoiled by social media at this point.

[00:08:44] Let's just be real.

[00:08:45] Yeah.

[00:08:45] I heard, I heard Wolverine shows up in it.

[00:08:48] Shh.

[00:08:49] Kevin.

[00:08:49] There's more than that.

[00:08:51] And that there's some kind of multiverse connection.

[00:08:54] Just, just give them a whole plot, Kevin.

[00:08:56] Okay.

[00:08:57] They haven't done enough multiverse stories.

[00:08:59] So I'm glad they.

[00:09:00] I know.

[00:09:01] They haven't done enough.

[00:09:02] No.

[00:09:03] Yeah.

[00:09:04] Well, we've all watched the movie.

[00:09:07] Yeah.

[00:09:07] And multiverse thing was a conversation we had me, my son, my wife were eating and we

[00:09:11] talked about it.

[00:09:12] I'm like, Hey, we're kind of sick of multiverse stuff, but let's see where this goes.

[00:09:15] And they literally acknowledge it.

[00:09:16] Like, Hey, this multiverse shit is out of control.

[00:09:18] Like as soon as you walk into the film.

[00:09:20] So, uh, John, how about we start with you?

[00:09:23] Like what were your initial just bird's eye view thoughts of the film and just kind

[00:09:27] of go from there and we'll all go around the table.

[00:09:30] Deadpool always has like the best openings.

[00:09:32] It's always like the song, the action, like the freeze frame things.

[00:09:35] So I'm always down for that.

[00:09:38] Um, I felt like a lot of it was just like nostalgia bait.

[00:09:43] It's just like, Oh, and then there's this guy.

[00:09:45] I remember this moment and this from like different movies.

[00:09:48] And I was like, Oh, that's fun.

[00:09:49] But like, as it was happening, I kept smiling.

[00:09:52] So I was like, Oh, I do like, I love it.

[00:09:54] Like they got me.

[00:09:56] Yeah.

[00:09:57] And then like, just like the little references to like their other movies, like the non-Marvel

[00:10:01] movies too.

[00:10:02] I was like, all right.

[00:10:04] Like they, they won me over, but like, as far as story wise, it didn't really like knock

[00:10:10] me out of the park, but I think like performance and really just tying that whole thing together.

[00:10:16] I was like, all right, they did a really good job with that.

[00:10:20] No, definitely.

[00:10:21] What about you?

[00:10:22] You're not even like, like you said, you're not in embedded like Kevin and most of us into

[00:10:26] the Marvel verse.

[00:10:27] What do you think of the movie?

[00:10:28] Yeah, no.

[00:10:29] And it's funny enough.

[00:10:30] The only comic books I've ever read of Marvel are Deadpool comics.

[00:10:35] Like I just, I enjoy Deadpool comics.

[00:10:37] And, but like, I don't know.

[00:10:39] There's something about meta media that it's gotta be good for me to enjoy it.

[00:10:44] And Deadpool just like, they did it.

[00:10:47] So it was the millennial touch.

[00:10:50] I'll call it that.

[00:10:51] It was like the millennial, uh, just self-awareness that cracked me up.

[00:10:56] And I also am very like grateful that like, I was in a theater full of fans too.

[00:11:01] Like I thought it was going to be, we went in the afternoon.

[00:11:03] So I'm like, I don't know if it's going to be like same energy, but no, you could tell

[00:11:07] that it was like a theater full of fans.

[00:11:08] We were all enjoying, uh, the different things.

[00:11:11] But I like, again, I'm so tired of multiverse crap.

[00:11:14] Like every time I'm going to a Marvel movie, I'm like, cool, more multiverse shit.

[00:11:18] Let's go.

[00:11:19] But this one, I'm, I actually like, liked how we had a glimpse of it, like the control

[00:11:26] and just how it, it, it played into everything.

[00:11:29] And yeah, the story was like overall, not the best, but because it's the Deadpool title

[00:11:35] and it's not taking itself so seriously, like other Marvel titles.

[00:11:39] I really had fun with it.

[00:11:41] I had so much fun watching it and I want to go out.

[00:11:44] I want to watch it again.

[00:11:44] Honestly.

[00:11:47] Kevin, you do it, man.

[00:11:48] Cause you're, I know you're going to say, well, I didn't like it.

[00:11:55] Okay.

[00:11:56] So that's not true.

[00:11:57] I liked it, but I liked it in a sense that it was an okay movie.

[00:12:02] Like it was like, like, I don't, I have not actually made a ranking of Marvel movies

[00:12:06] yet, but I know which ones are bottom and I know which ones are the very top.

[00:12:10] And I'm like, this is solidly in the middle somewhere.

[00:12:13] It's not the worst.

[00:12:14] It's okay.

[00:12:15] It's like, okay.

[00:12:16] Uh, my partner had never seen the second Deadpool movie.

[00:12:19] Um, she's, she's like, maybe I would enjoy it more if I saw that we went back and watched

[00:12:23] it.

[00:12:23] I didn't realize how much I enjoyed the second Deadpool movie.

[00:12:26] It's not quite as good at the first, but it's great.

[00:12:28] This one is less than that.

[00:12:29] I'll get into details more, more later, but like, yeah, it's just, it was okay.

[00:12:35] When I wanted amazing.

[00:12:37] And I also say one other thing that's contrary to everybody else here.

[00:12:40] I want more multiverse stuff only because I want it to do the stuff that sci-fi and comic

[00:12:46] books do with it.

[00:12:47] And so far it's all been surface level.

[00:12:49] Look at exists.

[00:12:50] And I'm like, no, I want the deep stuff.

[00:12:52] You know, that's why I'm really hoping for secret wars, you know?

[00:12:55] So.

[00:12:56] Yeah.

[00:12:58] Well, I liked the film.

[00:13:00] Uh, like I said, it's fun.

[00:13:02] This is a fun movie.

[00:13:03] It take a send off.

[00:13:05] It's a kiss goodbye to what was the box first, whatever you call that.

[00:13:09] Um, so everyone to watch the original X-Men films all the way to the first class and fantastic

[00:13:15] four films, like all these films that we watched before the MCU kind of became what

[00:13:19] it is today.

[00:13:20] And the joke is always been like, oh man, like, but then we see these cameos we'll

[00:13:25] talk about later.

[00:13:26] And all these, like you said, like John said, you're kind of like, okay, the story's not

[00:13:30] there.

[00:13:31] Like, it's not really fleshed out very well.

[00:13:33] It's just, this is what I want to do.

[00:13:35] This is what I'm going to do.

[00:13:36] Everything else in between is just fucking gravy.

[00:13:39] Like, it's just like, all right, let's have fun.

[00:13:40] Let's, let's poke at every single nuance from, like you said, the millennial touch

[00:13:45] is perfect phrasing for it.

[00:13:46] Yeah.

[00:13:47] And even if you're a, a mid to high level fan of these films and comics, especially

[00:13:53] the films, you're gonna, you're gonna smile.

[00:13:55] You're gonna laugh.

[00:13:56] You're gonna chuckle.

[00:13:56] Oh yeah.

[00:13:57] That you're there.

[00:13:58] Even from the internet trolling to just fanboying, right?

[00:14:01] Like it's all there for you.

[00:14:03] So, and Ryan Reynolds literally is like, this is his fucking movie, like all over it.

[00:14:08] You know, so.

[00:14:09] I mean, Ryan Reynolds has wanted to be, or been Deadpool since 10 years before Deadpool

[00:14:15] came out.

[00:14:16] So.

[00:14:17] Yeah.

[00:14:17] So for me, it's not the best story.

[00:14:20] And I love the fact that we have the TVA in the film, which is cool.

[00:14:24] Hey, cool.

[00:14:25] There's something here, right?

[00:14:26] But they didn't make any sense compared to how they were in the show.

[00:14:29] Exactly.

[00:14:30] And that's where I was like, oh, there's stretch.

[00:14:32] They don't make sense.

[00:14:33] Who is the paradox guys.

[00:14:36] And like, we're reaching here.

[00:14:38] And, but Hey, let, I mean, overall it's a good film, especially if you're a fan of

[00:14:42] these or not super fan, but if you want a good laugh and you're somewhat aware of those

[00:14:46] movies, you don't have to read comic books to understand it and enjoy it.

[00:14:50] I think it's fun.

[00:14:51] Okay.

[00:14:51] But you say that if you want a good laugh, right?

[00:14:54] So I saw it on opening night is the 7 PM showing primetime showing.

[00:14:58] Uh, I was there with my partner and, and like three or four other friends.

[00:15:03] And I, I wasn't, I caught myself not laughing a lot.

[00:15:06] And then I, I listen, maybe it's just me.

[00:15:08] Maybe I'm, I'm in a bad mood.

[00:15:09] So I listen to the audience and they barely laughed at a couple of scenes.

[00:15:14] And I asked my friends afterwards, they're like, Marvel's back to form.

[00:15:17] This is the greatest ever.

[00:15:18] It was so funny.

[00:15:19] And I'm like, I heard you laugh three times, you know?

[00:15:24] There were a few times where I was like, these scenes are a little, like,

[00:15:29] long, like when he's setting up at the TVA thing.

[00:15:33] And he was like, Oh, you got to get a, like your anchor being or whatever.

[00:15:37] Yeah.

[00:15:38] That was like, that was expository for expository sake.

[00:15:41] And I can't believe that.

[00:15:42] If you're going to do a goofy movie, it's okay to do expository quickly just to get

[00:15:46] to the goofiness.

[00:15:47] But yeah.

[00:15:49] Yeah.

[00:15:51] Yeah.

[00:15:51] Yeah.

[00:15:51] But like the Wolverine scene in the beginning, the whole Backstreet Boys thing, right?

[00:15:55] That NSYNC?

[00:15:55] I don't know.

[00:15:57] NSYNC and the Wolverine skeleton.

[00:15:59] NSYNC.

[00:15:59] And I mean, the skeleton, after a while we're like, okay, we're literally beating a dead horse

[00:16:03] here.

[00:16:04] Like literally.

[00:16:05] That went way too long.

[00:16:06] We had to get everyone a special name card.

[00:16:09] The thing is all the Deadpool movies have some kind of like animated opening credit.

[00:16:15] Yeah.

[00:16:15] And to me, this was the least interesting of the three mainly because of how long it went,

[00:16:20] not because of the style of it.

[00:16:21] Yeah.

[00:16:22] Although my big thing on this dance is, okay, so we have a character breaking the fourth

[00:16:28] wall, dancing to a boy band song that is 25 years old, I think.

[00:16:34] Um, and he is literally desecrating the bones of every fanboy's favorite movie.

[00:16:41] Yeah.

[00:16:42] She-Hulk twerked with Megan Thee Stallion.

[00:16:45] Great episode.

[00:16:46] Apparently everybody that loved the dance.

[00:16:51] I really loved it.

[00:16:51] Let me first say that.

[00:16:52] Everybody that hated the She-Hulk thing loved the Deadpool thing.

[00:16:57] And I'm like, what's the difference here?

[00:16:59] Interesting.

[00:17:00] How are these two things different?

[00:17:02] You know, one is a character acting in character who is a fan of music with a musician who

[00:17:09] also likes to go out and party.

[00:17:10] They've established in the show.

[00:17:12] And she's doing the twerking.

[00:17:14] The other one is everything I just said.

[00:17:18] I mean, you can sit there and yeah, people just wanted to hate on She-Hulk.

[00:17:22] We talked about it.

[00:17:23] You know, they found reasons to shit on it when it's Ally McBeal with fucking superpowers.

[00:17:29] There's like a perfect combination.

[00:17:31] That's it.

[00:17:32] It's fun.

[00:17:33] All the time too.

[00:17:35] And much better, by the way.

[00:17:36] I want to point out the difference between the way Deadpool breaks the fourth wall and

[00:17:39] She-Hulk breaks the fourth wall.

[00:17:41] In She-Hulk, if you took out every single fourth wall break, the story still makes sense

[00:17:46] until the last episode.

[00:17:47] That's the only one where the fourth wall affects the plot.

[00:17:50] Yeah.

[00:17:50] So for all the rest of it, you can assume that this little interaction is just us, the

[00:17:55] audience and the people making the film and not literally the character of Jen Walters.

[00:17:59] Right?

[00:18:00] Whereas in Deadpool, the fourth wall breaks are the plot, but not even in the same way that

[00:18:06] the end episode of She-Hulk was because it's just okay.

[00:18:10] How does he know where the Avengers are and the sacred timeline?

[00:18:13] I don't know.

[00:18:14] But he's there now.

[00:18:16] Yeah.

[00:18:16] How has, I was going to say foggy, how has Happy been following or looking to Deadpool's

[00:18:22] references?

[00:18:22] I don't know, but it's funny.

[00:18:24] And I'm like, come on.

[00:18:25] Yeah, it's goblin wall breaks.

[00:18:27] Yeah.

[00:18:27] Yeah.

[00:18:28] They're not at all.

[00:18:29] There's no purpose to it.

[00:18:30] That's why I said online in a video that She-Hulk did the fourth wall breaks better and

[00:18:34] funnier and literally people were very upset.

[00:18:36] They're like, wait.

[00:18:37] People want to, want to ride this wave, man, because they figured, okay, it's an R-rated

[00:18:42] Marvel movie.

[00:18:44] It's for us because of this age where, you know, like our age, it's not like kid friendly,

[00:18:48] what have you.

[00:18:49] It's not, it's not, it's not the PG Marvel.

[00:18:53] You know, it's like, it's like adult, the shit that we always want to see on screen, especially

[00:18:56] for comic books.

[00:18:57] Like it's there.

[00:18:58] It was 15 with cartoon violence.

[00:19:02] I think, well, no, I mean, back, I did, I did hear an article that said somebody counted

[00:19:06] the number of cuss words and it was like an extremely high number.

[00:19:08] And I was like, okay, fine.

[00:19:09] Maybe they did that too.

[00:19:10] Yeah.

[00:19:11] I don't remember that many cuss words.

[00:19:12] It's fine.

[00:19:13] But it's like, I think you're not, you shouldn't walk into this film.

[00:19:16] Like this is the fucking, no pun intended.

[00:19:19] It was the Marvel Jesus moment, right?

[00:19:20] Like it's not that, like, let's just be real.

[00:19:23] Like this is a fucking Deadpool movie.

[00:19:26] If you watch the other ones or won't know of it, you're not going to be surprised.

[00:19:30] Now straight up.

[00:19:31] I want to get to it.

[00:19:33] The fucking cameos.

[00:19:35] That was it for me.

[00:19:36] Like I was, I was head over heels when I first saw.

[00:19:38] And I got you, Kevin, when you, when you checked me on the fucking spoiler, I talked

[00:19:42] about Chris, Chris Evans.

[00:19:44] Yes.

[00:19:45] Chris Evans is a spoiler and he didn't catch it.

[00:19:51] Or who are we talking to?

[00:19:52] It was me.

[00:19:53] I didn't catch it.

[00:19:54] Oh, Elliot didn't catch it.

[00:19:55] That's what it was.

[00:19:55] I was trying to think, was it a guest?

[00:19:57] Yeah.

[00:19:58] Cause so when Chris Evans first showed up on screen, like he immediately said a cuss word.

[00:20:03] I'm like, that ain't Captain America.

[00:20:05] Cause Ray was immediately like, oh my God, it's Captain America.

[00:20:07] Language.

[00:20:08] No, the fuck.

[00:20:09] No, it's not.

[00:20:10] And so I didn't catch that.

[00:20:12] I didn't catch that though.

[00:20:14] I was surprised.

[00:20:15] I'm like, that's not Captain America.

[00:20:17] That's not Captain America.

[00:20:18] But tell me the moment he straddles Chris and goes, yes.

[00:20:21] And then we find out the moment he goes, flame on.

[00:20:25] It's like, oh shit.

[00:20:26] Like I higher theater screamed.

[00:20:28] Yes.

[00:20:28] That was one of my laughs.

[00:20:29] I really enjoyed that.

[00:20:31] No, it was so, I was cracking up because I like in my gut, cause fantastic four is

[00:20:37] one that I've, I've definitely seen before knew about totally forgot about the whole like

[00:20:42] Fox thing with it.

[00:20:43] And so I like, I was like, oh, oh, it was a, it was a wonderful like moment to just like,

[00:20:52] it's like, you're not, this isn't your Captain America right now.

[00:20:54] We're gonna, we're gonna throw it back a little bit.

[00:20:57] And it makes more sense if that character is where he is for sure.

[00:21:01] The cameos.

[00:21:02] I mean, that's, that's the biggest thing.

[00:21:04] Everything from Chris Evans.

[00:21:06] Right.

[00:21:06] Then we dive right into, of course, uh, Henry Cavill.

[00:21:09] Like that stuff was, oh, all the rumors.

[00:21:12] Yeah.

[00:21:12] Yeah.

[00:21:13] All the rumors were Marvel's talking with Cavill.

[00:21:15] Who could he play?

[00:21:16] And everybody's like, Captain Britain.

[00:21:18] He'd be amazing.

[00:21:18] Captain Britain.

[00:21:19] A few people were like, we want him to be century because that's Marvel Superman.

[00:21:23] And you know, they, they, you know, a bunch of this stuff, but, um, a cameo and Wolverine

[00:21:27] feels like a waste of Cavill.

[00:21:29] Like I may not like the Snyder verse, but he's, he's really good.

[00:21:33] Okay.

[00:21:33] There is one thing that my partner and I cracked up about with that scene of Cavill Reign.

[00:21:39] Okay.

[00:21:39] Did you see how he popped his claws?

[00:21:43] I don't remember.

[00:21:44] So when he, yes.

[00:21:45] When he did the, uh, was it, was it, uh, was it mission impossible?

[00:21:49] Yeah.

[00:21:50] Yeah.

[00:21:50] We did mission impossible.

[00:21:51] His character is supposed to be a brawler and he just decided like wall filming to cock

[00:21:56] his arms.

[00:21:57] Like they were good.

[00:21:59] And then with the second take, he didn't do it.

[00:22:01] And the director's like, Hey, why didn't, why didn't you?

[00:22:03] He's like, Oh, I just, it was a spur of the moment thing.

[00:22:04] Keep doing that.

[00:22:06] So now cocking his arms is a thing.

[00:22:08] And he literally cocked his claws out and, and both of us were cracking up.

[00:22:12] Cause that's exactly what he was doing.

[00:22:14] Love that.

[00:22:15] I was like, wow.

[00:22:16] Now I want him to play a character that actually has some kind of arm power.

[00:22:19] So he could do that.

[00:22:20] Yeah.

[00:22:22] He can play havoc.

[00:22:23] Yeah.

[00:22:24] We could play havoc.

[00:22:25] Could play havoc.

[00:22:26] He's built enough.

[00:22:27] He has that smolder.

[00:22:29] Like he's fucking good, man.

[00:22:30] Think about it.

[00:22:31] He's hot too.

[00:22:32] But havoc has the younger child syndrome where he's always like, I'm never going to be as

[00:22:37] big as my big brother.

[00:22:37] And that'd be who the heck could play Cyclops.

[00:22:40] Cyclops.

[00:22:41] Ben Affleck.

[00:22:42] Oh, just.

[00:22:43] No, no.

[00:22:45] Look at that man.

[00:22:46] Look at me.

[00:22:47] Let him, let him deal with JLo and the fucking heart movie.

[00:22:51] We're supposed to watch like, like that thing.

[00:22:55] Okay.

[00:22:55] Where she, they build a heart in a factory.

[00:22:57] I don't know.

[00:22:59] Um, that's a different, but we get of course.

[00:23:02] Yeah.

[00:23:02] Her movie, her heart.

[00:23:03] Bring me back for that podcast.

[00:23:05] Cause I've seen it.

[00:23:05] And I need a rain.

[00:23:06] Oh no.

[00:23:08] John.

[00:23:09] We're doing it.

[00:23:10] Cause me and Elia were talking about doing it.

[00:23:11] So now we're going to have to.

[00:23:13] The one where.

[00:23:14] JLo made a movie about her life.

[00:23:17] And she.

[00:23:18] Works in a factory where they build a heart.

[00:23:21] And she.

[00:23:22] Heart.

[00:23:22] Love is falling apart or dying.

[00:23:24] And she has to bring it back to life.

[00:23:26] Music video, but it's anyone that she's ever met cameos in it.

[00:23:30] It's like Deadpool.

[00:23:31] Like the entire time.

[00:23:32] I was like, was that Ray Malick?

[00:23:35] I was like, okay.

[00:23:36] In this.

[00:23:37] I was like, oh, everyone is in this.

[00:23:39] I like three times.

[00:23:41] I was like, I keep forgetting that post Malone has like.

[00:23:44] A story.

[00:23:45] He's in the movie.

[00:23:46] Now I think I, now I think I need to meet that.

[00:23:48] Watch.

[00:23:48] Out of curiosity.

[00:23:49] Okay.

[00:23:49] You said it.

[00:23:50] We're doing it.

[00:23:51] We're doing the.

[00:23:52] Put it down.

[00:23:53] Take it down.

[00:23:53] We're writing this.

[00:23:55] Making it happen.

[00:23:56] But cameos, right?

[00:23:57] Let's talk about them.

[00:23:58] Let's just put them out there.

[00:23:59] Oh, Kevin, did you want to say something first?

[00:24:00] Since we're talking about.

[00:24:02] Where Cavill was, was Wolverine.

[00:24:03] I don't know if you guys want to talk about.

[00:24:05] Specifically the Wolverines first.

[00:24:07] Or you want to throw all the cameos.

[00:24:09] Well, let's start with Wolverines, right?

[00:24:11] Let's go there in order.

[00:24:12] So we have.

[00:24:13] Well, Kevin, go ahead.

[00:24:13] We had the Cavalry.

[00:24:15] We had.

[00:24:15] There's a bunch of deep cut comic references.

[00:24:17] Like where he's wearing the white suit.

[00:24:18] Has eye patch over his eye.

[00:24:20] Yeah.

[00:24:21] Yeah.

[00:24:21] That's when Wolverine had the secret identity of Patch.

[00:24:24] Who looks exactly like Wolverine.

[00:24:26] Acts exactly like Wolverine.

[00:24:28] But has an eye patch.

[00:24:29] Which Wolverine would never wear.

[00:24:31] So he's not Wolverine.

[00:24:32] And that's with gangster.

[00:24:35] Yeah.

[00:24:35] Oh yeah.

[00:24:35] Yeah.

[00:24:36] Around that time period.

[00:24:37] He teamed up with gangster Hulk.

[00:24:38] Yeah.

[00:24:38] Yeah.

[00:24:39] But.

[00:24:40] So there's a lot of comic references like that.

[00:24:42] One of the interesting ones for me is where he's.

[00:24:45] Crucified on the giant X.

[00:24:47] That is a very famous issue of X-Men.

[00:24:49] But of course Deadpool even comments on what all the skulls are doing there.

[00:24:51] When that happens, there were no skulls.

[00:24:54] Wolverine is hallucinating from overexposure to the sun.

[00:24:57] So.

[00:24:59] Yeah.

[00:24:59] Deadpool is inside of his hallucination, I guess.

[00:25:01] Now, mind you, he really was on an.

[00:25:03] Being crucified on an X.

[00:25:05] Because comic books.

[00:25:06] But everything else that happened was hallucinations.

[00:25:08] So, you know.

[00:25:09] Hmm.

[00:25:10] Anyway.

[00:25:11] But that doesn't bother me.

[00:25:12] I like that.

[00:25:13] It's still fun.

[00:25:13] It's cute.

[00:25:14] But.

[00:25:16] Comic accurate Wolverine that was less than five, three feet tall.

[00:25:22] Yeah.

[00:25:22] I remember the.

[00:25:23] And.

[00:25:24] Small.

[00:25:25] What they call him?

[00:25:26] No, he just called him.

[00:25:27] He called him comic book accurate Wolverine is what he called him.

[00:25:29] Yeah.

[00:25:30] And the thing is, is like.

[00:25:32] I just.

[00:25:33] He looked like.

[00:25:33] I feel like this is a short person joke.

[00:25:36] And we're just making fun of people for being, for being little.

[00:25:38] And it's like Wolverine's height is not usually a joke.

[00:25:41] I mean, they'll call him runt compared to the big guys.

[00:25:44] But that's it.

[00:25:46] I don't know.

[00:25:47] It was a joke because he's making fun of them.

[00:25:49] Yeah.

[00:25:50] And people complained when.

[00:25:52] When he first got the role because they're like, oh, he's too tall to be.

[00:25:55] Yeah.

[00:25:56] Oh, they even changed the comics for him.

[00:25:58] Yeah.

[00:25:59] Because now he's like.

[00:26:00] They made.

[00:26:00] They made ultimate comics Wolverine in the ultimate comics.

[00:26:02] He was basically his height.

[00:26:04] Yeah.

[00:26:06] Crazy Wolverine.

[00:26:07] But we get.

[00:26:07] You know, you jacked me back.

[00:26:09] That was awesome to see him again.

[00:26:11] Just be in that role.

[00:26:12] And it's like slipping right back into that role.

[00:26:14] Like.

[00:26:15] So shit.

[00:26:15] He never left.

[00:26:16] Yeah.

[00:26:16] The Logan version almost, you know, like.

[00:26:18] Yes.

[00:26:19] Give and take like this.

[00:26:20] I know the different personalities, but we still got that vibe of like tired old and

[00:26:24] worn out Wolverine.

[00:26:27] I honestly.

[00:26:28] I honestly was thinking to myself, wow, Hugh Jackman looks as great now as he did when

[00:26:33] he started.

[00:26:33] He doesn't look like he aged.

[00:26:34] And then in the closing credits, we received the scenes.

[00:26:37] Oh, yeah.

[00:26:37] I'm like, oh, he did.

[00:26:38] Yeah.

[00:26:40] He looks.

[00:26:40] We just ate together.

[00:26:42] Oh, no.

[00:26:42] We grew up together.

[00:26:44] I put out like four gray hairs the other day and I was like, time's a bitch.

[00:26:49] Right?

[00:26:50] If I can age like Hugh Jackman, I'll be.

[00:26:52] I'll be fucking amazed if I can age like him.

[00:26:55] You know what?

[00:26:56] We're talking about aging because Hugh Jackman, Chris Evans looks as good as now as he looks

[00:27:00] better now than he did when he was even torch, but he looks just the same age.

[00:27:04] He's practically.

[00:27:05] Well, yeah.

[00:27:06] He's maybe Tom Cruise.

[00:27:07] Channing Tatum, who's the same age as Chris Evans, more or less.

[00:27:11] He aged.

[00:27:12] I don't know how to put that.

[00:27:13] I don't want to be.

[00:27:14] I'm a big fan of Channing Tatum.

[00:27:16] I think he's a great actor.

[00:27:16] I want him in more stuff.

[00:27:17] But I mean, like he just seems noticeably older than most of the other actors except

[00:27:21] for Snipes.

[00:27:23] You know, so.

[00:27:24] Well, I mean, yeah, like Wesley Snipes, Blade.

[00:27:27] The only non-Fox property.

[00:27:29] When we get that scene where they come out of the fucking woodwork and we see Blade,

[00:27:34] I'm like, oh shit.

[00:27:35] I didn't have time to recover between each one.

[00:27:37] I was just like, oh.

[00:27:40] And Channing Tatum.

[00:27:40] Blade made me crack up and I was not expecting Channing Tatum's gambit.

[00:27:43] Me either.

[00:27:44] I was like, wait, did that?

[00:27:45] At all.

[00:27:47] And when he was like, now it's a meme, right?

[00:27:49] Him, like his accent, that whole thing.

[00:27:52] Oh my God.

[00:27:52] It's like, aw.

[00:27:53] Like he's always making the joke like, some of us didn't even get a chance.

[00:27:55] And it's like.

[00:27:56] They say I wasn't born here.

[00:27:58] I wasn't born in the world, sure.

[00:28:02] You know, it's funny is that that joke though is so many of the jokes in the movie required

[00:28:09] the audience to have deep knowledge about it.

[00:28:13] Now I'm saying this as somebody who got all of the references.

[00:28:15] I mean, literally my job was to get references.

[00:28:17] So like, yeah, that was no problem, but I'm like, oh, the Channing Tatum team.

[00:28:22] It's funny.

[00:28:22] Like I laughed at it because Channing Tatum gambit and I knew the history, but at the

[00:28:25] same time when they kept running with the joke of I was born here.

[00:28:29] I don't know where I came.

[00:28:30] Some of us never got a chance to start.

[00:28:32] Those jokes mean nothing to the general audience.

[00:28:34] Whereas my response was, yeah, I get that.

[00:28:38] Yeah.

[00:28:38] There was a lot of stuff that was just there for us, like the audience that knew, but not

[00:28:43] for the story.

[00:28:44] Yeah.

[00:28:44] Like, cause we, even when he starts listening to people like, oh, daredevil, punisher.

[00:28:48] Yeah.

[00:28:49] All these guys, everyone's just like, the punisher one I can kind of forgive, but the

[00:28:52] daredevil one is you have to know about, uh, Jennifer Gardner, Gardner, sorry, too many,

[00:28:57] too many Jennifer's Jennifer Garner's, uh, found personal history, right?

[00:29:01] Relationship history in order to get that joke.

[00:29:03] So it's not even if you watched daredevil, you wouldn't get it.

[00:29:05] You know what I mean?

[00:29:05] That's yeah, that's weird.

[00:29:07] And yes, I knew about it.

[00:29:08] That's okay though.

[00:29:08] But I mean, I think that this film, it wasn't like, Hey, this blanket, like, Hey, this is

[00:29:13] for everyone to understand this.

[00:29:14] They're going to be like, this is a lot of deep cuts and this is for, I think I said that

[00:29:19] send off to the hardcore.

[00:29:20] Like, yeah, maybe it's too meta.

[00:29:23] Kevin.

[00:29:24] The one deep cut I did laugh at in that scene, uh, was when blade says, I don't like

[00:29:30] you.

[00:29:30] And Deadpool says you never did.

[00:29:32] And that is, that made me laugh because famously Wesley Snipes hated Ryan Reynolds on the set

[00:29:40] of blade Trinity.

[00:29:41] Um, like wouldn't even talk to him.

[00:29:43] It was, uh, so it's like, that's actually kind of funny that he got him to, to, to

[00:29:47] yeah.

[00:29:48] So, and we got, uh, they didn't make a Trinity joke.

[00:29:52] I'm sure we got, of course, Laura coming back, uh, from Logan, uh, which was really cool.

[00:29:58] That was her back in that role.

[00:29:59] Yeah.

[00:29:59] And then we had, uh, am I miss Pyro and juggernaut?

[00:30:04] Oh yeah.

[00:30:04] That scene.

[00:30:05] There's a bunch of people that the camera never lingered on.

[00:30:07] Yeah.

[00:30:08] My own juggernaut, uh, from, uh, X-Men two and three.

[00:30:11] For two.

[00:30:12] Juggernaut was in three.

[00:30:13] That was so good.

[00:30:14] That was great.

[00:30:14] That scene is like, here's the thing I've been waiting for.

[00:30:17] I met him March because.

[00:30:19] Oh, you met Tyler Maine?

[00:30:20] Yeah.

[00:30:21] He was at a table right next to me.

[00:30:22] So I was selling my comics and he was just hanging out.

[00:30:25] Yo.

[00:30:26] Did he, did he tell you, I just filmed a scene in Deadpool.

[00:30:28] Well, like it was funny cause behind him was a big thing of saber tooth.

[00:30:32] Yeah.

[00:30:32] And I was like, I would write that coat wave.

[00:30:35] Yeah.

[00:30:35] Like everyone was there for him as Michael Myers.

[00:30:38] So I was like.

[00:30:39] Interesting.

[00:30:40] Oh yeah.

[00:30:40] But saber tooth shows his face though.

[00:30:42] So it's better that way.

[00:30:43] Yeah.

[00:30:43] But now I'm like, Oh, he had just filmed it.

[00:30:46] Cause he looked grizzled.

[00:30:48] Yeah.

[00:30:49] Okay.

[00:30:49] Like time's been rough, but I'm like, Oh no, he was trying to be rough.

[00:30:54] Yeah.

[00:30:55] And that man is tall as like, I'm not tall, but when I saw him, like he stood up and I

[00:31:00] was like, I get why there's a line of women there.

[00:31:03] Yeah.

[00:31:04] That's why I told Emily, I was like, you can go stand there.

[00:31:07] It's okay.

[00:31:09] Yeah.

[00:31:09] I get it.

[00:31:11] Just I'll see you at home tomorrow.

[00:31:13] Yeah.

[00:31:13] Okay.

[00:31:14] Look, if there's some, there's some claw marks in various places, I'm just going to live

[00:31:18] with it.

[00:31:18] You know, we move on.

[00:31:20] Hey man.

[00:31:20] Fight the beast.

[00:31:22] Fight the beast.

[00:31:23] So the biggest thing was the cameos, right?

[00:31:25] That was the thing here.

[00:31:26] Well, in that same scene, we have the original actor who played Lady Deathstrike from Wolverine

[00:31:30] from X-Men three, I think.

[00:31:33] Three?

[00:31:33] Yeah.

[00:31:34] And I, if I remember correctly at the time she filmed that movie, she had no lines partially

[00:31:39] because the actor hadn't learned English yet, or at least not was still working on it.

[00:31:45] And, but the thing is they've had actors before that read phonetic scripts.

[00:31:48] I don't know why they didn't try.

[00:31:49] Either way, sadly, she didn't have any lines here.

[00:31:52] She could have had her first line ever as Lady Deathstrike and they didn't give her a

[00:31:55] line.

[00:31:56] They had, I think the actor who played Callisto from the Morlocks was there.

[00:32:02] Yes.

[00:32:02] She was there too.

[00:32:03] She had like speed powers for some reason in the movie.

[00:32:05] And then I think the blob was there.

[00:32:08] Toad, that's another one.

[00:32:10] Like why you have Ray Parker back.

[00:32:13] Why don't you zoom in on him?

[00:32:14] At least give him a close up cameo that that's him.

[00:32:18] That's make him do a flip.

[00:32:19] Yes.

[00:32:21] That's Darth Maul right there.

[00:32:23] You have him.

[00:32:23] This is like, he's got two roles.

[00:32:25] He's known for it in genre fiction and you're not going to show him.

[00:32:31] So you know what would have been awesome if they had a, they had him in Star Wars garb

[00:32:35] somehow.

[00:32:35] Cause it would have been grabbed.

[00:32:36] Or if he grabbed, if he grabbed Gambit's staff and started doing.

[00:32:40] Gambit's staff.

[00:32:40] I went, that would have been awesome.

[00:32:42] But I mean, that's, that's the Smash Bros.

[00:32:45] The Smash Brothers of fucking like Fox, CU, whatever you want to call it.

[00:32:50] MCU, Marvel.

[00:32:51] Yeah.

[00:32:52] Like it's every, all the little characters jumping and fighting each other and they're

[00:32:54] there and you're geeking out.

[00:32:56] And then we get, you know, the stuck.

[00:32:57] You said the storyline is almost second, second or third through this whole extravaganza.

[00:33:01] You know, like it just helps us get to the next cameo or the next kind of kind of set

[00:33:06] piece.

[00:33:07] And it's a story for story sake.

[00:33:09] And then we get towards, you know, what now they're the TVA is involved.

[00:33:14] Now all the branches are breaking and we're back to the TV show again.

[00:33:18] You know, and you're kind of like, Oh, it didn't look, you fixed this.

[00:33:21] You know, like, so that's the part that gets, it gets to me because.

[00:33:25] So first the guy starts talking about the sacred timeline.

[00:33:28] And so I'm like, Oh, I guess this takes place during season one.

[00:33:31] And, but then they say, I'm gonna cut you off.

[00:33:33] Cause I'm curious.

[00:33:34] Thor crying with Deadpool.

[00:33:36] I want to get to that in a second.

[00:33:38] I want to finish this real quick.

[00:33:40] So he mentioned sacred timeline.

[00:33:42] And then in Deadpool season two, nobody remembered the sacred timeline.

[00:33:45] They didn't even remember who their old boss was.

[00:33:47] So they didn't, not a single member of the TVA should remember the sacred timeline.

[00:33:51] Um, but this guy did.

[00:33:55] And I'm like, okay, maybe some of them do remember it called the sacred timeline.

[00:33:59] So maybe some of them are, are yearning for the old ways, but that doesn't make any sense with.

[00:34:05] It's just very.

[00:34:08] Thrown together.

[00:34:09] And then also where did he get all of his followers?

[00:34:11] They all were just like middlemen office managers, the TVA.

[00:34:14] And they're all like, yeah, I want to blow up universes.

[00:34:16] You know, like how, how many of those do you find in your office?

[00:34:20] Yeah.

[00:34:21] Apparently the TVA is a huge placement.

[00:34:22] All right.

[00:34:22] Why is she crying?

[00:34:24] Um, because that is very clearly a scene for secret wars.

[00:34:29] Um, like that, like, like that is not, we're not going to see that scene until like, uh, 20, 27.

[00:34:36] Because, because that has to be secret wars.

[00:34:39] There's, there's no reason to put that in.

[00:34:41] And, uh, why would you put Deadpool in doom world, a doom, uh, doomsday?

[00:34:47] Because that's just going to, that's going to make it less serious.

[00:34:51] They did like a breakdown of that scene and it was just, they just Photoshop that whole into it.

[00:34:56] Cause it was from like, it's 100 toward the dark world.

[00:34:58] Yeah.

[00:34:59] It was just like a throwaway joke, but because the internet picked it up, I was like, oh, now they're going to shoehorn it into a scene.

[00:35:05] No, they will film it. They are going to film it. You know, they will. And they're going to, they're going to have an explanation for why he looks like Thor from Thor the dark world. It'll come up.

[00:35:15] He has both eyes again. Uh, whatever. But, um, he's no longer Odin. Right.

[00:35:19] Well, no, it's because he has the long hair. That's why.

[00:35:22] That's why.

[00:35:22] They'll make a laughing goat reference.

[00:35:24] And yeah, you know, yeah, why not? Fuck it at this point.

[00:35:29] Uh, like we talked about with doom last time, right? With him, with, uh, RDJ, like even a fucking snail could be doom if we wanted it to be. So.

[00:35:35] Yeah. Um, anything could happen in the multiverse, right?

[00:35:38] Somebody reminded me that there is a reality in which Deadpool is Wolverine is sorry. Deadpool is, is Dr. Doom.

[00:35:45] That does exist.

[00:35:46] Of course.

[00:35:47] Of course. Like I said, what's the point?

[00:35:49] Like everybody can play everything, you know, whatever multiverse. Ooh.

[00:35:53] Um, but yeah, I mean the film here, we get to this part to kind of in here.

[00:35:56] Cause I mean, really it's, if you watch the film, you, you get the gist of it.

[00:36:00] And I think our reactions here are just kind of geeking out towards the good parts.

[00:36:03] And there are slow, there are some long fucking parts in that movie.

[00:36:08] We were like, this is why you're stretching this out. Why?

[00:36:11] You should have brought in more people then more cameos or something, you know?

[00:36:14] Like long, like nice.

[00:36:15] If they're having a quiet moment together or they're talking, but long where it's just like John said, more exposition.

[00:36:20] Yeah.

[00:36:22] Yeah.

[00:36:22] Yeah.

[00:36:22] I mean, break the fourth wall.

[00:36:23] Um, a few times.

[00:36:24] That's fine.

[00:36:25] That would be exposition.

[00:36:26] You could get exposition that way.

[00:36:27] Like if you didn't see the previous movie, this is what this is, or this is going to be our new Lord drop for this movie.

[00:36:32] You know, like that'd be okay.

[00:36:33] You can do that.

[00:36:34] Or the scene where she's in Logan's head, uh, the villain.

[00:36:38] And then he's telling her about how he failed them.

[00:36:42] I was like, well, Logan already explained how he failed the X-Men.

[00:36:45] We already got this.

[00:36:46] I was like, so we don't like, if you just told me he failed, I'm fine with it.

[00:36:50] We're moving on.

[00:36:51] But they spent a lot of time there.

[00:36:52] They should have, while she was in his head, had her just randomly break the fourth wall and not understand why she's doing it.

[00:36:58] Like that would've been cool.

[00:36:59] That'd be cool.

[00:37:00] Marvel again, give this man a job, pay him.

[00:37:03] He writes shit.

[00:37:03] It's good.

[00:37:04] I'm telling you.

[00:37:05] But what are our final thoughts on, on Deadpool and Wolverine?

[00:37:07] Elia, we'll start with you.

[00:37:09] Yeah.

[00:37:10] Um, no, I had fun with it.

[00:37:11] I had fun with it.

[00:37:12] I definitely want to see where all the different stories intertwine into this, out of it, whatever.

[00:37:20] Um, yeah, I, I definitely want to see it again, honestly.

[00:37:25] Uh, cause I'm a sucker for nostalgia.

[00:37:27] Also the, the crowd of Deadpools.

[00:37:29] I want to like, look and see which ones I can find.

[00:37:32] Cause there were moments where I'm like, I wish I could pause and just like, you know, one of them was Matthew McConaughey.

[00:37:37] Right?

[00:37:37] Yes.

[00:37:38] You're kidding.

[00:37:40] And then three of them were Ryan Reynolds family.

[00:37:43] Yeah.

[00:37:43] The baby, the kid and, uh, Blake was the blonde one.

[00:37:47] Yeah.

[00:37:48] Yeah.

[00:37:49] Which Rob Liefeld now claims was always based on Blake Lively even before she met Ryan Reynolds.

[00:37:54] Right.

[00:37:55] Um, so Rob Liefeld, you're totally believe in that.

[00:37:58] So also in credit scene.

[00:38:00] Uh, yeah, I was correct.

[00:38:03] Chris Evans.

[00:38:04] Yeah.

[00:38:04] Yeah.

[00:38:05] Okay.

[00:38:07] I don't like, no, no, no.

[00:38:09] I'm fine with all that.

[00:38:10] I don't like that.

[00:38:12] He died in such a point.

[00:38:14] Like, okay.

[00:38:15] Like death and Deadpool could be funny.

[00:38:19] Death and Deadpool could be traumatic.

[00:38:20] Both have happened in previous movies.

[00:38:22] Right.

[00:38:24] But in the two previous movies, Deadpool was trying to get more empathy for other people.

[00:38:30] He was trying to become a hero and his stated purpose in this movie, which makes no sense.

[00:38:35] And I forgot to mention that earlier.

[00:38:36] Say the purpose of this movie is I want to be accepted as a hero and yet randomly gets

[00:38:42] people killed.

[00:38:43] And he's like, well, I didn't get him killed.

[00:38:44] His own words did it.

[00:38:45] But yes, you're the one who is just character growth.

[00:38:50] He was.

[00:38:52] It didn't even sound like something Deadpool would have done in the first movie.

[00:38:56] Yeah, it's okay.

[00:38:56] Because it's a comic book movie, Kevin.

[00:38:58] That's why it's okay.

[00:38:59] That's true.

[00:38:59] No, it was funny when it happened.

[00:39:01] His death happened.

[00:39:02] The collective gasp of the theater had me dying.

[00:39:06] Yeah.

[00:39:06] I don't know.

[00:39:07] So I saw it coming because the whole Deadpool thing.

[00:39:09] I was like, she's just going to wipe him and make him flat or something.

[00:39:12] And I was like, oh, didn't expect that to happen.

[00:39:14] But all right.

[00:39:15] What about you, John?

[00:39:16] Final thoughts of the film?

[00:39:17] It was fun for the nostalgia of it.

[00:39:20] And even people are giving too much credit for that opening sequence.

[00:39:24] I know I said I liked it, but like Ted Lasso did it to like do a montage of that dance.

[00:39:29] And I was like, Ted did it better.

[00:39:31] But like, it was just fun.

[00:39:33] I think like throughout all of it, like I just had fun with it.

[00:39:37] But if I was like ranking it as like a just a Marvel movie or superhero movie, it's not near the top.

[00:39:44] It's like pretty middle of the road.

[00:39:46] But I think everyone just needed to laugh.

[00:39:49] And that's why it's like box office numbers, because people just we need something right now.

[00:39:55] And this was it.

[00:39:57] Yeah.

[00:39:57] Cool, cool.

[00:39:58] So my thoughts again, it's fun.

[00:40:00] I laugh.

[00:40:01] I got the references that I needed.

[00:40:03] I got what I wanted out of it.

[00:40:04] And like Elia said, I'd love to watch it again just to kind of pick up something else I may have missed.

[00:40:09] Right. Or just to kind of relive some of those moments.

[00:40:12] But it's not.

[00:40:14] It's not like life changing.

[00:40:15] It's not Iron Man one.

[00:40:17] I'm sorry for me.

[00:40:17] That's still one of the best ones.

[00:40:18] Right.

[00:40:18] For me, I mean, it literally built the universe.

[00:40:21] Yeah, it's just a great film.

[00:40:23] And if I'm ranking it because we have our score, I'd give it like a three, three and a half.

[00:40:28] Honestly, just right in that hood.

[00:40:29] It's not amazing.

[00:40:30] It's not it's not shit.

[00:40:31] It's not Thor the Dark World or whatever that movie.

[00:40:34] I thought that one was OK.

[00:40:35] It wasn't great.

[00:40:36] It was OK.

[00:40:36] It's watching.

[00:40:37] Well, but but it was fun.

[00:40:39] I enjoyed it.

[00:40:41] And Kevin, your final thoughts on it.

[00:40:42] I know you've given us a lot, but what's your final thoughts on it?

[00:40:44] Well, like I said, I.

[00:40:49] I did not hate it.

[00:40:50] I'm going to act like I hated it.

[00:40:51] I didn't hate it, but it was just OK.

[00:40:54] It was fine.

[00:40:56] It was fine.

[00:40:58] You know, I was talking about how it stacks up as a movie.

[00:41:01] It's occurring to me how it stacks up as a sequel.

[00:41:05] So the first movie that pulls all trying to like reestablish his humanity, figure out if he even deserves to be treated like a person.

[00:41:12] This bothers me because I've always hated it was makeup.

[00:41:14] And that's one beside the point.

[00:41:17] And and he and by the end of the movie, he proves that, you know, this his girl always loved him.

[00:41:22] And then he loves her, too.

[00:41:23] And all this.

[00:41:23] Right.

[00:41:25] The director of the first movie wanted to continue that the second movie, but Ryan Reynolds wanted to just amp the jokes.

[00:41:30] So the director moved on and brought a different director and.

[00:41:35] Immediately they kill her off.

[00:41:36] Now, I will say there's a little bit of like emotion there is the beginning.

[00:41:40] And then at the end, they bring her back and that's a lot of motion.

[00:41:42] And even when she's gone, Deadpool's journey is all about like who he is as a person.

[00:41:47] Like he he finally found acceptance from his friends, his loved ones, all the stuff of that.

[00:41:51] And now he feels like it's falling apart, even though his friends are literally right there telling him it's not.

[00:41:55] And that's a great emotional journey.

[00:41:56] And then as he overcomes that and we get that little moment where he gets to really, really prove something.

[00:42:01] Then cable erases it by time traveling.

[00:42:03] You know, he grows as a character.

[00:42:06] None of that was in this movie.

[00:42:08] You know, we have Deadpool who's more more murderous and sadistic than he was in part one.

[00:42:13] We have him randomly wanting to join the Avengers that he's OK again, a fourth wall breaks are real and he's heard of them by watching the movies that needs established to we need to establish that because I know about more than just my reality.

[00:42:28] Some of it just establish it.

[00:42:30] Why is he there?

[00:42:31] Why does he care?

[00:42:32] But more importantly to me is his own cast like they're all there for a big quick wave.

[00:42:38] He broke up with his girlfriend between movies because the Avengers didn't accept him, which.

[00:42:44] Yeah, what?

[00:42:45] Like there's so many routes they could have gone with this.

[00:42:47] I would have loved to see her fighting alongside him in her reality and her in the comics.

[00:42:52] She's a mutant.

[00:42:53] And I think also an assassin.

[00:42:55] But so it's like there's a lot of stuff they could have done with her and instead just writing them off.

[00:43:01] And then one that I didn't really think about, but one of my mutuals on Tick Tock, Nicole, Nicole Clayton pointed out.

[00:43:07] Peter was the wrong choice.

[00:43:09] All right.

[00:43:09] So at the end of the movie, all the people are like, we all love Peter.

[00:43:12] We all have a Peter.

[00:43:13] We love him that there is no other Peter anywhere else in the multiverse of Deadpool.

[00:43:18] People who read the comics say that should have been Bob and Bob was referenced in the first movie with a scheme.

[00:43:23] So it could have been anybody could have hired any actor to play him.

[00:43:26] But the reason they didn't use him in Deadpool 2 is because his full name is Hydro Bob or Hydro Bob rather.

[00:43:33] And they didn't have the rights to Hydra.

[00:43:35] So they could do that.

[00:43:36] Well, they could have brought him back and he could have been Hydro Bob.

[00:43:38] But let's just say, OK, within the movie itself, who is the one person through all three?

[00:43:43] Well, first two movies who wanted to be with Deadpool, who believed in Deadpool, who wanted to become his own Deadpool.

[00:43:49] It's not Peter.

[00:43:51] Dopinder.

[00:43:53] Dopinder should have been the one that all the Deadpools were like, we all have a Dopinder.

[00:43:56] He's the best.

[00:43:57] Right.

[00:43:57] Why was Peter wearing the costume?

[00:43:59] Peter's never had an interest in that.

[00:44:00] But Dopinder literally wanted to have his own costume.

[00:44:03] He would have worn it.

[00:44:04] You know what I mean?

[00:44:05] Like, why is it Peter not him?

[00:44:07] I don't know.

[00:44:08] Is something different between those two people?

[00:44:09] I don't know.

[00:44:11] Man, if you want more rants like that, guys, follow Kevin, Garcia, on the store, Tom, on TikTok, Instagram.

[00:44:16] I weirdly don't rant on TikTok much.

[00:44:18] I don't.

[00:44:19] You guys bring it out on me.

[00:44:20] There's a green screen.

[00:44:22] Yeah.

[00:44:22] Just because you have a green screen.

[00:44:23] Is that why?

[00:44:24] It doesn't count.

[00:44:25] No.

[00:44:27] Because there's no one to bounce off of.

[00:44:29] I'm bouncing off my reflections.

[00:44:30] It's different.

[00:44:31] Oh, well, battling yourself, huh?

[00:44:33] Uh, well, guys, check out if, um, tell us what you guys think about the Deadpool movie at my

[00:44:39] Primo's podcast.

[00:44:40] But we're gonna take a quick break and come right back.

[00:44:43] Stay tuned.

[00:44:45] We're back, Primo.

[00:45:37] Thanks for hanging there with us.

[00:45:39] We are going to talk about, uh, what do you call it?

[00:45:41] More complaints about Deadpool.

[00:45:43] More, an event of complaining about Deadpool for Kevin Garcia.

[00:45:46] There wasn't enough swear.

[00:45:47] But Kevin, uh, right?

[00:45:49] We can, Kevin, I need you to swear.

[00:45:52] I swear this movie was as good as it could have been.

[00:45:55] Whatever, man.

[00:45:56] I'll get you one day.

[00:45:57] But Kevin, you, uh, Elia and John, this is not just a coincidence, but we have you on

[00:46:02] because you are, what is this?

[00:46:05] Are you petitioning?

[00:46:07] Are you presenting?

[00:46:08] What do we, what do we call this, this moment right now regarding this panel, the panel

[00:46:12] that you are trying to get started?

[00:46:16] So, uh, South by Southwest is just for those who've not heard of it.

[00:46:19] One of the biggest events in the world, as far as entertainment goes, because it's not

[00:46:24] a comic con, but it's also, it's, it's a music festival with, with multiple big name

[00:46:30] artists.

[00:46:30] It's a movie festival.

[00:46:32] It is a, there's an, there's an education festival, but we, before it, it's all this one

[00:46:36] giant thing, um, that I've been going to every year as, as a volunteer, but, uh, I have spoken

[00:46:42] there before as a, I was hosting a actor panel, uh, the thing once before, but I really

[00:46:48] want to be in a panel there giving a discussion with other professionals about comic books and

[00:46:53] things like that.

[00:46:54] So I submitted to them and in order to get approved to be at South by Southwest, uh, we

[00:47:00] need to be voted on by the potential audience.

[00:47:04] So basically people need to create a South by Southwest account and then say, I want this

[00:47:08] to be the panel that goes ahead.

[00:47:10] And one of the panels is the marvelous classroom universes at South by Southwest EDU.

[00:47:16] And I invited the really cool panelists to be on it.

[00:47:22] Like here.

[00:47:24] Yeah.

[00:47:26] Um, Oh wait, I'm sorry.

[00:47:27] No, you're in the other one.

[00:47:28] Oh, that's right.

[00:47:28] Right.

[00:47:29] Right.

[00:47:29] Ah, dang it.

[00:47:29] I got mixed up.

[00:47:30] Sorry.

[00:47:31] Uh, no, no, no, because dang it.

[00:47:33] That is, I'm, uh, because in the EDU one, I have friend of the show, professor Latinx.

[00:47:39] I have, uh, Christina Taylor, who is a friend of mine, a professional librarian, a professional

[00:47:43] comic book librarian.

[00:47:44] I want to point out that is literally her job.

[00:47:46] Um, and, uh, we also have another, uh, teacher slash, uh, comic book creator that Ben Humenic,

[00:47:52] who's a friend of mine.

[00:47:53] I've interviewed several times at South by proper.

[00:47:57] Sorry, Elia.

[00:47:58] I apologize.

[00:47:58] I wonder if you're looking at me so surprised.

[00:48:00] That's not by proper.

[00:48:01] We're talking about, uh, Latino representation in, uh, movies and especially comic books and

[00:48:08] comic related properties because complex is such a big part of the entertainment industry.

[00:48:12] You know, I hear always hear people say, where's our black Panther moment and stuff like, well,

[00:48:15] what is being done by Latino, Latina creators?

[00:48:18] So I brought in, uh, Rafael Navarro.

[00:48:21] And of course, Elia, now it's you.

[00:48:23] Sorry about that.

[00:48:24] Yay.

[00:48:25] Me.

[00:48:26] So tell me why, why did you want to be part of this?

[00:48:29] I always love talking about comics from a Latine perspective, being a woman creator

[00:48:38] in the space.

[00:48:38] Like it's already hard enough being a woman comic artist, but being a Latina woman, it's

[00:48:44] just like two additional like blockades there.

[00:48:48] But it's, it's like, there's so many stories that I want to tell that are different from

[00:48:53] the male perspective that I, I like telling the world about.

[00:48:58] And I feel like any sort of way to get out there and talk about them is just another way

[00:49:03] to help people find it.

[00:49:05] I always love making sure people can find it.

[00:49:08] And if maybe if they find like my work or any work that I'm involved in, that just opens

[00:49:12] the gates to all the different collaborations.

[00:49:13] I'm part of, they find their work and just like the tree of the comic culture.

[00:49:19] So I like, I'm really excited to just be sitting, first of all, sitting amongst three legends.

[00:49:26] Um, and I do want to point out that third, that third legend.

[00:49:31] Uh, John, uh, Vigna of a Vigna comics.

[00:49:34] Yeah.

[00:49:35] John, why did you want to be part of this amazing?

[00:49:37] I wanted to make sure to invite him because I'm like, Raphael has been doing this for almost

[00:49:41] 30 years, 25, 27 years.

[00:49:43] And I really wanted to get the other perspective, somebody who just started and has like, how

[00:49:47] many comics have now?

[00:49:48] Five, 600.

[00:49:49] Oh yeah.

[00:49:50] A new one comes out tomorrow.

[00:49:51] So it'll be 36.

[00:49:52] Oh my God.

[00:49:53] 36.

[00:49:54] Wow.

[00:49:54] 36.

[00:49:56] 36.

[00:49:57] 36.

[00:49:59] There's a clerks joke there if you get it.

[00:50:01] Um, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:50:04] Yeah.

[00:50:04] You know what?

[00:50:04] I didn't get it till you said it.

[00:50:06] Now it's not going to go away.

[00:50:08] Yeah.

[00:50:09] So I'm like, I, like I said, I'm new to the space and in Chicago, there's like a, there's

[00:50:14] a big indie comic scene, but there's not a lot of Latin people in it.

[00:50:19] Like, and reaching out, finding a community, finding a space, like finding you guys was like

[00:50:24] a godsend because I found other people through you guys that I now get to talk to.

[00:50:31] And it's kind of giving me credibility.

[00:50:33] Like right now we're doing a variant with Maria, the wolf.

[00:50:37] She does like the more.

[00:50:38] Wow.

[00:50:39] Yeah.

[00:50:39] Yeah.

[00:50:39] So she's doing a lockjaw variant for us.

[00:50:43] I met her once right before she hit it big.

[00:50:45] And I, and I was like, wow, we need to work together sometime.

[00:50:48] And, and now every time I try to say hi to her, there's like a lion around the block

[00:50:52] to get her art.

[00:50:53] Hell yeah.

[00:50:54] That's dope, John.

[00:50:55] I know you're working with her.

[00:50:56] She's amazing.

[00:50:57] That's really cool.

[00:50:58] And then, uh, Jorge guys, Garza, who does like all the, like, uh, Aztec, like pop

[00:51:03] art.

[00:51:09] And then the coolest Theo and like the space of like pulling people along.

[00:51:13] And like seeing him do that makes me want to do that for other people too.

[00:51:17] So like.

[00:51:18] Oh, man.

[00:51:19] Yeah.

[00:51:19] Yeah.

[00:51:20] So getting to do this and it would be great.

[00:51:22] Cause it'll help me bring other people into the space too.

[00:51:25] And kind of show them that anyone can do this.

[00:51:28] You just gotta want to do it enough.

[00:51:31] Yeah, definitely.

[00:51:32] Definitely.

[00:51:33] Kevin.

[00:51:33] I know you'll talk a little more here, but I'll put on screen there, the website.

[00:51:36] So you can go check out, um, the panel, but there's multiple panels.

[00:51:40] Yeah.

[00:51:42] Yeah.

[00:51:42] There's two that you have to do.

[00:51:43] That one right there is the link that goes directly to Los comic books, which is

[00:51:48] the name of our panel that we're talking about.

[00:51:51] Um, and honestly, that would take you straight there.

[00:51:53] And that's all you need to know.

[00:51:54] Uh, the other panel, which is, um, which is marvelous classroom universes.

[00:52:01] That one is at South by edu.

[00:52:05] The thing is this, if you just, if you just literally Google at South by Southwest panel

[00:52:09] picker and then create an account, it gives you two choices.

[00:52:12] It says South by, uh, or South by edu.

[00:52:16] We have, I have one panel in either, and whether you want to support, uh, comic books

[00:52:21] and education, or you want to support Latinos in cow books, either way, you support us.

[00:52:26] Go for it.

[00:52:28] There's both of them right there.

[00:52:29] Both of them right there.

[00:52:30] Yeah.

[00:52:32] But Kevin, you know, so I know you were kind of like writing the kind of like kind of

[00:52:36] leading this, this, uh, this charge on this with everybody, of course, but why did you

[00:52:40] see it fit that?

[00:52:41] Hey, this needs to be there.

[00:52:42] Like you mentioned how big South by Southwest is.

[00:52:45] It's not a con, but there's plenty of eyes on this event, you know?

[00:52:49] And so can I talk about that a little bit and why you felt like, Hey, I'm going to lead

[00:52:52] the charge on this one.

[00:52:53] Well, like I said, I've been, I've been working at South by Southwest as a volunteer

[00:52:57] for, I don't know, 10 years.

[00:53:00] Um, and, uh, and I was going a little bit before that.

[00:53:02] It's just such a, Oh, and I take my students every year.

[00:53:05] My students get, I, we apply for press access and they get press passes and go and cover it

[00:53:10] as press both South by proper and South by edu.

[00:53:14] Um, and every time we go, we're always seeing all of the panels that give so much information.

[00:53:18] And I'm like, this is something that we need to share.

[00:53:21] And actually I tried to do this previously.

[00:53:23] Uh, I tried to submit for the 2020 South by Southwest, uh, to have a, a complex education

[00:53:29] panel then.

[00:53:30] Um, and, uh, we tried the campaign, didn't get enough votes, that kind of stuff.

[00:53:34] And that's fine.

[00:53:35] But then something happened in 2020.

[00:53:37] There wasn't really a reason to apply the next year.

[00:53:41] Yeah.

[00:53:42] Anyway.

[00:53:42] And then, uh, I haven't applied since.

[00:53:44] So I was just like, you know what?

[00:53:45] Now's the time.

[00:53:46] So, yeah, no, I mean, I'm, I'm excited because, you know, you said we, we see all these announcements.

[00:53:53] It's kind of like, it's, it is South by Southwest.

[00:53:54] It's kind of over, I don't say overlooked.

[00:53:56] Let me rephrase.

[00:53:56] I think that it's not considered a place where these type of events would take place.

[00:54:01] Is that fair to say?

[00:54:02] Yeah.

[00:54:03] But there, but there's a whole like book component to it.

[00:54:06] Like if you look at the list of things in South by books are not mentioned, but there

[00:54:10] is a literature component to it.

[00:54:12] There's a, there's like a bookstore there of like authors that have panels.

[00:54:15] Like it's, it's, it's all there.

[00:54:16] I attended a, um, young, uh, young adult, uh, fiction for, for women.

[00:54:22] Uh, you know, I took a panel there a while back and it was just authors writing their

[00:54:26] books, uh, and talking and answering questions out.

[00:54:28] It was really good.

[00:54:29] I really enjoyed it.

[00:54:30] And, uh, yeah, we need to make this just another like huge Latino centric comic book event, man.

[00:54:37] Like why not?

[00:54:37] Like let's take over South by Southwest with these panels and make it a, a regular thing.

[00:54:43] That's what we should do here.

[00:54:45] Apologies to Latinos in Chicago area, but the South by Southwest is where Latinos should

[00:54:50] be taken over.

[00:54:52] It is in Texas.

[00:54:57] But John, you gotta, you're going to come to Texas again.

[00:55:00] You know what I mean?

[00:55:01] And then that, that's an event that's supposed to, if, if the primos go out there and support

[00:55:04] like we're supposed to, right.

[00:55:06] These panels will happen.

[00:55:08] Right.

[00:55:08] So, you know, I'll, I'll go down there to South by South by and fight over traffic and

[00:55:13] space and try to get, get some pictures with the cool people.

[00:55:15] Cause you know, everybody here is cool, but me, uh, one day I'll be on a phone.

[00:55:20] I'll be on a panel one day, one day guys, one day I'll be there.

[00:55:24] You never know.

[00:55:25] You never know.

[00:55:26] But, um, speaking of events, I know we have events coming up for everybody here on the panel.

[00:55:31] Uh, John, uh, you have something coming up soon.

[00:55:34] Uh, tell the primos, you know, about the event where they can find you as well as just your

[00:55:39] socials as we wind up here, uh, into the show.

[00:55:41] Sure.

[00:55:42] So I'm going to be at fan expo in Chicago, um, next weekend.

[00:55:47] So it's, uh, yeah, it's going to be next Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

[00:55:52] Um, I'm in artist alley.

[00:55:54] It's like table a three 29, but something I'm doing because I do really want to give back

[00:56:00] is I'm taking artist submission.

[00:56:02] So I'm hiring two artists, one to do a varying covers and one to do, uh, an issue of the

[00:56:07] last bottle of that on the block for next year.

[00:56:10] So people just need to bring any kind of portfolio.

[00:56:13] If it's digital, if it's physical, um, I'm going to take down like everyone's information.

[00:56:18] And then by the end of the show, both people will be picked.

[00:56:21] So I'm just hoping to be able to hire someone that like travel to the show.

[00:56:26] Cause if you're doing that and I know DC is doing like an artist submission thing there

[00:56:31] too, but it's like, if you're already gunning for that, then you, you don't need like a somewhere

[00:56:38] to start.

[00:56:38] Like you've already kind of figured that out, but for the people that don't know that

[00:56:41] have like the, the big aspirations of like, I just want to make comics starting small.

[00:56:47] That's how I did it.

[00:56:47] Right.

[00:56:48] Like I self published everything.

[00:56:49] That's where you get your foot in the door.

[00:56:51] And that's what, that's what I'm offering people is just like, you'll have a book to

[00:56:56] show others and the file of federal books are all genre everywhere.

[00:57:00] So you'll, you'll get your fix from there.

[00:57:04] For sure.

[00:57:05] It was up in Primos, you know, that's the way to do it.

[00:57:07] And Kevin, when do you have any events coming up as well?

[00:57:10] Yeah, I actually have a couple that I've been invited to.

[00:57:13] I'm really excited about there's Indie Comic-Con September 21st in, in, in Houston.

[00:57:20] That's basically, yeah, I do staple all the time here in Austin.

[00:57:23] Indie Comic-Con I went last year.

[00:57:24] It was amazing.

[00:57:25] It's just independent authors from all, all over that are just coming there to show their

[00:57:29] stuff.

[00:57:31] John, it's a lot like what the Latino Comic-Con was, but just focusing on indie creators in

[00:57:35] general.

[00:57:36] I'm actually doing some interview, video interviews that they're gonna be posting pretty

[00:57:39] soon.

[00:57:40] In October, I have Casa in San Antonio that, that I'm really excited about.

[00:57:46] I'm gonna be there with Freddie Lopez Jr.

[00:57:47] who's the artist who did the cover for the soon to be published World's War comics.

[00:57:53] So, so that's really, really exciting.

[00:57:56] And then in November, I have Mexamerican in Austin on November 2nd.

[00:58:01] So like, I've got right now one thing per month.

[00:58:04] And if more stuff comes up, stuff comes up.

[00:58:07] I'm excited.

[00:58:07] That's the way to do it.

[00:58:08] Keep bouncing around.

[00:58:09] Mr. Kevin Garcia, you feel that hole.

[00:58:12] Elia, what about you?

[00:58:13] Somebody's gotta.

[00:58:15] Me, I, I'm on a little mini break right now after doing two week, two con weekends in

[00:58:21] a row, but Labor Day weekend, I will be in San Antonio for San Japan, which is now I

[00:58:26] think the one of the biggest anime cons in, in Texas.

[00:58:30] It's really big.

[00:58:31] Yeah.

[00:58:32] Now that anime fest had its last year and a con took the break this year.

[00:58:36] I, um, yeah, that I honestly forgot about it.

[00:58:41] I did too.

[00:58:42] And so someone brought it up at anime fest.

[00:58:43] I'm like, Oh, right.

[00:58:45] That's weird.

[00:58:46] Cause it was so good.

[00:58:47] Yeah.

[00:58:48] But no, I'm excited.

[00:58:49] This was my first year to get into San Japan.

[00:58:51] I applied eight years in a row and it was finally, finally accepted on the year that it's

[00:58:56] their quince.

[00:58:57] It's quinceanera themed.

[00:58:59] I was like, damn.

[00:59:00] There you go.

[00:59:00] Yeah.

[00:59:01] So I'm really excited.

[00:59:02] I can't wait to be in San Antonio.

[00:59:04] Um, and I don't have any conventions after that yet.

[00:59:09] So I don't know if y'all want me at a con, uh, hit me up.

[00:59:12] But before that on August 24th, uh, 12 PM central standard time right now that I know

[00:59:19] of, I will be playing D and D for charity, uh, with the JDRF or now known as breakthrough

[00:59:25] T1D.

[00:59:26] Um, it's going to be a lot of us, um, that are working with the charity, uh, and we're

[00:59:32] just going to be raising money.

[00:59:33] It's the game to give campaign.

[00:59:35] We're raising money, uh, for the type one diabetes cure research.

[00:59:39] And, uh, yeah, we're just going to be rolling dice.

[00:59:41] It's going to be from what I've told, it's going to be super brutal.

[00:59:45] We're, we're all starting level 13.

[00:59:47] We're all supposed to die by the end of the game.

[00:59:50] So yeah.

[00:59:52] Why?

[00:59:52] Why do you keep supporting all of these like charities that need support?

[00:59:58] What is with you in this?

[00:59:59] I don't know.

[01:00:00] I've always been told like, or not told.

[01:00:03] I've always told myself that if I have a platform and I'm able to, I want to use

[01:00:08] it to give back and like breakthrough T1D is always like, it has a special place in my

[01:00:14] heart.

[01:00:14] Cause I myself am a type one diabetic.

[01:00:16] And if I can see a cure in my lifetime, like great, or just one like in the future for future

[01:00:23] generations.

[01:00:24] Um, and I don't know, it just like being, being a Latina as well as a diabetic.

[01:00:29] I like to, to bring awareness to, um, the marginalized groups that are diabetic.

[01:00:34] Cause not many people talk about it and how it affects us, but, um, it's a little bit

[01:00:38] different.

[01:00:39] It's a little bit, everything else, uh, a little bit spicier, but, um, I like to do what

[01:00:44] I can to use my platform to make it a little better.

[01:00:47] Use my, my spice for, for good.

[01:00:50] Ah, nice, nice spice.

[01:00:52] The nice.

[01:00:53] Yeah.

[01:00:54] Uh, I mean, I'm happy that everybody's got events going on projects going along as well.

[01:00:59] I know everybody's working on something, Kevin.

[01:01:01] Uh, I know you're finishing up your Kickstarter.

[01:01:03] Your books are almost out.

[01:01:04] I think I just need to do the, it's all it's done.

[01:01:07] I just need to do the printing.

[01:01:07] That's all I need to do.

[01:01:08] And I just, I school is starting right now, but I'm going to get it before the end of

[01:01:12] this month.

[01:01:12] It'll be printed.

[01:01:13] So yeah, I know you're working on princess of taco.

[01:01:16] That's done.

[01:01:17] Almost.

[01:01:18] So it's a range.

[01:01:19] I have to typeset it.

[01:01:21] We just started, uh, typesetting or getting it arranged for typesetting this week.

[01:01:24] So hopefully we'll get it finished and then we'll see if anyone wants it.

[01:01:29] So you out there listening, if you want a magical Latina princess, magical taco girl, check out

[01:01:36] Princess of Taco.

[01:01:37] Definitely check out.

[01:01:38] Yeah.

[01:01:38] He's got a website now.

[01:01:40] Yeah.

[01:01:41] Princess of Taco.

[01:01:42] And, uh, really?

[01:01:44] Oh, wow.

[01:01:44] I love it.

[01:01:45] You said something's launching.

[01:01:46] Can you kind of tease us?

[01:01:47] Like what's launching tomorrow?

[01:01:49] Uh, the last boat that on the block number two is out.

[01:01:52] So it's a big Kaiju story about like displaced families and gentrification.

[01:01:59] So, but it's got Kaiju's it's got mech suits.

[01:02:02] It's amazing.

[01:02:03] It's hilarious.

[01:02:05] Uh, so that one's out and we actually just finished the art completely on lockjaw number

[01:02:10] three.

[01:02:11] So we just have to letter it and that'll be done by the end of the month.

[01:02:15] Awesome.

[01:02:16] So at Avena comics and Avena comics.com and a Tik TOK shop as well.

[01:02:20] Right?

[01:02:20] Yep.

[01:02:21] Yeah.

[01:02:21] Everything Avena comics.

[01:02:23] You can find it.

[01:02:24] I'm excited about Palo Teto.

[01:02:25] I picked up issue one.

[01:02:26] I haven't had a chance to read it yet.

[01:02:27] It's like so many things going on, but I was so excited for it.

[01:02:30] So I'm going to be happy for issue two coming out soon.

[01:02:33] Heck yeah.

[01:02:34] Here at the, here at the end, we always bring up something that we've been, you know, reading,

[01:02:38] watching, listening to hyper focused on, uh, uh, let's start with Elia.

[01:02:43] What have you been doing this week or what can you recommend or what's the topic?

[01:02:46] Yeah.

[01:02:47] So, um, I, I haven't really had much time to watch any new shows lately.

[01:02:51] We're binging some stuff this weekend.

[01:02:53] Um, if I can get a lot of editing work done, but I watched a couple of movies for the first

[01:02:57] time this past weekend.

[01:02:58] Um, neither of them were my cup of tea, but I'll share them with you.

[01:03:02] Um, the first being brother, where art thou?

[01:03:05] The one that's based on the, what is it?

[01:03:08] The odyssey.

[01:03:09] I don't remember, but it's got, yeah.

[01:03:12] Wasn't my cup of tea.

[01:03:13] Didn't really follow it.

[01:03:15] I was just like, okay.

[01:03:17] All right.

[01:03:18] The music was cool.

[01:03:20] I like Wolverine.

[01:03:21] It's like, yeah, it, it, it, like, I like the music elements to it.

[01:03:24] I like that.

[01:03:25] And I wish there was just a different story to go with it or a story that was better written.

[01:03:30] Um, yeah.

[01:03:31] And George Clooney didn't sing his own song, so I'm over it.

[01:03:34] No, of course not.

[01:03:35] I'm not going to have to sing it to a coffee can.

[01:03:37] You know?

[01:03:37] Yeah.

[01:03:38] Yeah.

[01:03:38] I mean, yeah, decent premise could have had better story writing.

[01:03:41] Um, and then I, I finally bit the bullet.

[01:03:44] I told myself I wasn't going to watch it because I was too proud of how the third one ended,

[01:03:49] but toy story four, and I did not like it.

[01:03:53] I was like, yes.

[01:03:54] And it, it's not needed.

[01:03:57] It's not.

[01:03:58] Um, I'm glad I haven't come out.

[01:03:59] I thought I watched it.

[01:04:00] Like, it's the one with forky.

[01:04:03] Oh yeah.

[01:04:05] It was, I, I enjoyed it, but he is garbage.

[01:04:08] Like a short film.

[01:04:09] Yeah.

[01:04:10] Material than it.

[01:04:11] Like a stressful, short film.

[01:04:12] He is garbage.

[01:04:13] He is garbage.

[01:04:14] Oh my God.

[01:04:15] Definitely garbage.

[01:04:16] It was just like, I feel like three ended and I have, I have special bias towards three

[01:04:21] because the third one's where Andy goes off to college and it came out the same year

[01:04:25] I left for college.

[01:04:26] So I had that like bond with it.

[01:04:29] And I'm like, it's perfect.

[01:04:31] Yeah.

[01:04:31] And so I was like, okay, Bonnie work.

[01:04:33] And now I'm like, I don't care anymore.

[01:04:36] Like good for you, Bonnie.

[01:04:37] Yeah.

[01:04:37] Like, but no, I, the, the fourth one, there was just so much like you get into like what

[01:04:44] constitutes a toy.

[01:04:46] And then Woody's like, I'm going to be forever reminiscent.

[01:04:51] La la la.

[01:04:51] I'm annoying.

[01:04:52] I don't know.

[01:04:53] It was just, it was too much and it wasn't necessary.

[01:04:55] And apparently they're making a fifth one now.

[01:04:57] Yeah.

[01:04:58] I'm even angrier.

[01:05:00] I don't know.

[01:05:01] I'm not my favorite, not my cup of tea.

[01:05:03] Just watch the first three.

[01:05:04] If you need a good trilogy, the fourth one doesn't exist.

[01:05:07] The end.

[01:05:08] There you go.

[01:05:08] That's how I feel about Incredibles two.

[01:05:10] Cause I was so excited about it.

[01:05:12] Incredibles one was amazing.

[01:05:13] And then two just told the exact same story with less interesting designs.

[01:05:17] It felt longer.

[01:05:18] It felt longer.

[01:05:18] Not much fun either.

[01:05:19] It was stretched out.

[01:05:21] It was stretched.

[01:05:22] I see it.

[01:05:23] I hear you, Kevin.

[01:05:24] It was stretched out, but it wasn't strong enough.

[01:05:26] It was like, you couldn't even see it because it went by so quickly.

[01:05:30] Yeah.

[01:05:31] Yeah.

[01:05:31] There you go.

[01:05:32] It hit every one of them except.

[01:05:34] The baby.

[01:05:35] The Frozone.

[01:05:36] Oh, the baby.

[01:05:36] I'm going with the Incredibles themselves.

[01:05:38] I didn't really know.

[01:05:38] It wasn't lit.

[01:05:40] Frozone.

[01:05:42] There we go.

[01:05:43] Kept it cool.

[01:05:43] Kept it cool.

[01:05:44] John, what about you, man?

[01:05:45] What have you been into this week?

[01:05:47] Kind of just reading, watching, listening to.

[01:05:50] I've just kind of like mentally reset for the last few weeks.

[01:05:54] Yeah.

[01:05:55] But my son got into Street Sharks.

[01:05:59] Oh, wow.

[01:05:59] So I needed to get something for me.

[01:06:02] They re-released the toys from the show Street Sharks.

[01:06:05] So have you been watching the cartoon?

[01:06:06] Yeah.

[01:06:07] So I bought the toy for me, fully intending to keep it in the box, like on my wall.

[01:06:12] And my son saw it and he was like, that's mine.

[01:06:15] And I was like, someone's got to be happy.

[01:06:18] So I opened it and I gave it to him.

[01:06:20] And he loved it.

[01:06:21] Like he fell asleep with it again today.

[01:06:24] So for like last week he's had it.

[01:06:25] Oh, wow.

[01:06:26] So I was like, he's got to watch the show now.

[01:06:29] So I put it on and I'm watching it.

[01:06:31] And I was like, the only thing I really remembered about it was like, oh, that's totally Jawsome.

[01:06:35] So that's all I've been saying for like the last week.

[01:06:40] Oh my God.

[01:06:40] Like the world's crumbling around me, but like this kid's walking around.

[01:06:44] He's three years old in a diaper just going like, that's Jawsome.

[01:06:47] And I was like, all right, the nineties are alive.

[01:06:49] I'm like this three year old.

[01:06:50] That's Jawsome.

[01:06:51] That is Jawsome.

[01:06:53] Let me use that.

[01:06:53] I've been reading Redwall.

[01:06:56] It's like these old.

[01:06:57] Yeah.

[01:06:57] Yeah.

[01:06:58] I love that book.

[01:07:00] Yeah.

[01:07:00] Yeah.

[01:07:01] Because Bloomberg came out for Magic the Gathering.

[01:07:04] Yes.

[01:07:04] Yes.

[01:07:04] And our second issue of our comic burrow is coming out and somebody's offering to buy

[01:07:10] it.

[01:07:11] And I was like, yeah.

[01:07:12] So I was like, okay, well, I have to finish it.

[01:07:15] And I was like, well, I'm not in that mindset to be like happy mice with swords.

[01:07:19] So I'm trying to get back to that.

[01:07:21] So like street sharks, reading.

[01:07:24] Watership down.

[01:07:25] Well, yeah.

[01:07:26] Watership down is brutal.

[01:07:29] Okay.

[01:07:29] Fine.

[01:07:30] Nim.

[01:07:32] Yeah.

[01:07:33] My spouse is obsessed with Redwall and is actually playing Magic the Gathering right

[01:07:38] now and love the drop.

[01:07:40] So I'm going to have to get that comic for them.

[01:07:43] One of the things that like was funny.

[01:07:45] We were playing the Ravnica D and D expansion.

[01:07:48] So it's Magic the Gathering.

[01:07:49] It's D and D and they blended it.

[01:07:51] So we had our DM that was doing the main story and he needed a break.

[01:07:55] And I was like, what I'm going to do is I'm going to take all your characters and we're

[01:07:59] going to turn them into woodland creatures because we can planes walk and we're going

[01:08:02] to do a story.

[01:08:03] This is like five years ago.

[01:08:05] Everyone.

[01:08:05] It's still your idea, man.

[01:08:06] Everyone hated it.

[01:08:07] They're like, that's crazy.

[01:08:09] Why?

[01:08:10] I'm a Goliath.

[01:08:11] I'm like, why would I want to be a badger?

[01:08:12] I was like, because you're a badger with an X.

[01:08:15] Like, I don't understand.

[01:08:15] And you're bigger than the people who are mice.

[01:08:17] Yeah.

[01:08:17] I was like, there's a whole system.

[01:08:19] I got guys.

[01:08:20] And then Bloomberg came out and everyone starts texting me like, yeah, that I get what you're

[01:08:26] going for.

[01:08:27] It seems fun.

[01:08:28] So now I just send them the Avena comic shop link to Burrow.

[01:08:32] And I was like, there you go.

[01:08:33] Buy this.

[01:08:34] Definitely.

[01:08:35] Definitely.

[01:08:35] Check out Avena comics, add Avena comics, buy Burrow, buy stuff.

[01:08:39] Kevin, what about you?

[01:08:41] Well, I've been, again, I haven't had much time to read comics, but I do is I read digital

[01:08:46] comics while I'm at work or whatever.

[01:08:48] And that technically, you know, have some time between classes.

[01:08:52] And the big thing is in Marvel, what at the X-Men was the Krakoan age, which is where

[01:08:56] the X-Men had their own nation and they had solved death and all kinds of other things.

[01:09:01] They all come back from the dead.

[01:09:03] Yeah.

[01:09:03] I never read any of them.

[01:09:04] Like I read a couple random issues, but I never got into it.

[01:09:07] And so they're doing a big X-Men relaunch.

[01:09:10] And I was like, all right, I'm going to buy all the new X-Men books, check them out.

[01:09:12] And so far I got Phoenix, X-Force, X-Men with no adjective, Uncanny X-Men and NYX.

[01:09:22] And most of them were just OK.

[01:09:25] They were all right.

[01:09:26] And the ones that I really loved were the two written by women, Uncanny X-Men by Gail Simone and then Phoenix as well.

[01:09:35] By Stephanie Phillips.

[01:09:36] Stephanie Phillips.

[01:09:37] Yeah.

[01:09:37] Thank you.

[01:09:38] Sorry.

[01:09:39] Those blew me away.

[01:09:41] I actually cried reading Uncanny X-Men by Gail Simone.

[01:09:43] And by the way, if you're barely familiar with comics, she's the one that came up with the phrase fridging, I think.

[01:09:51] Yeah.

[01:09:52] And it was just so good.

[01:09:54] And then the Phoenix one, it's Jean Grey as a cosmic being flying between planets.

[01:10:00] And I'm like, I don't know if I really want to read that story.

[01:10:02] And I got into it anyway.

[01:10:03] It was just really heartfelt.

[01:10:05] And I'm loving it.

[01:10:06] I'm also, by the way, loving Ultimate X-Men right now, which is not part of that relaunch.

[01:10:10] Also written by a woman, Peach Momoko.

[01:10:12] Although that one was getting a lot of hate online because it's done in a more anime style, but like in her own soft style.

[01:10:19] I remember that.

[01:10:19] Yeah.

[01:10:20] And also it's not being told the way an X-Men story has been told.

[01:10:24] And they're hating on it.

[01:10:25] I'm loving it.

[01:10:26] Yeah.

[01:10:26] Because it literally is all the elements of an X-Men story, but through a Japanese children's ghost story lens.

[01:10:33] And it's really cool.

[01:10:33] Yeah.

[01:10:34] I love the art of it.

[01:10:35] So beautiful.

[01:10:36] That's cool.

[01:10:37] So beautiful.

[01:10:37] Well, for me here, I've been reading a lot.

[01:10:41] I've been reading some Avina comics.

[01:10:42] I read Americana and Lepidia recently.

[01:10:45] I love them.

[01:10:46] I think they're some of the best stuff you've written, John.

[01:10:48] I'll be upfront about it.

[01:10:51] I like the story.

[01:10:52] I like the characters you're building.

[01:10:54] It's a slow, slow, like, good burn, you know, but I'm welcoming it because that means there's a lot more story, more depth.

[01:11:01] Because the characters, you flesh them out.

[01:11:03] Um, Loteria is like a really dark, darker story than I would have imagined about, you know, murders and dark pasts and pasts coming back to haunt you in so many words.

[01:11:14] And, um, I can appreciate what you're trying to go with it.

[01:11:17] And Americana.

[01:11:18] Well, Americana is just kind of like my, my thing that I love that you write.

[01:11:21] So I've been thinking that, uh, definitely check it out guys.

[01:11:23] Really, really check it out.

[01:11:24] If you want to dig some good, great art, great storytelling and just awesome, awesome world he's built.

[01:11:30] Um, but I've also been reading chroma.

[01:11:32] You guys, uh, by, uh, the Felici image comics.

[01:11:36] Uh, and I, I got into this like a few months back cause the trades are out and chroma is just this world set where everything literally starts off.

[01:11:44] The world, everything is completely gray, right?

[01:11:46] There's no color whatsoever.

[01:11:49] And throughout the story, the first few pages you get through, you start realizing that only this world, they cover themselves in a mud or ash to cover anything of color because there are these creatures that live outside of the walls that would be attracted to color.

[01:12:03] And they try to kill them because they're part of a different like belief system, what have you, a hierarchy regarding color.

[01:12:10] And there's this tale that the, uh, clergy, this religion in the town tells of a monster that was built to kill them all.

[01:12:19] And it turns out that this monster that they've built or killed is just a little girl that actually has like colored eyes and she's leading these kids like away from the town and trying to get, they're trying to free her cause they feel bad that she's trapped in this like tower.

[01:12:31] And we started learning that there's more layers to it and that the world outside of these walls is full of color.

[01:12:37] And I don't want to give much more away than that, but it's, it's really, the art is amazing.

[01:12:43] Uh, and I, I've really did the story so far.

[01:12:44] Let me get this straight.

[01:12:46] Um, there are people of color that have to blend in with a colorless society, uh, because the colorless people are out to get them.

[01:12:56] Um, but, uh, there's also one who is half both and also trying to get more outside of the people of color society.

[01:13:05] I feel like there's some analogies here that I'm not quite.

[01:13:10] It's gorgeous.

[01:13:11] It's by Lorenzo de Felici.

[01:13:13] The trades are out.

[01:13:15] Uh, it's on image.

[01:13:16] It's great.

[01:13:17] I really recommend those books.

[01:13:18] And then honestly, besides that, I just kind of, uh, you're playing a lot of predecessor and MOBA and then magic.

[01:13:24] Uh, I I've just been building some commander decks, been doing that on my spare time.

[01:13:28] So Bloomberg is there.

[01:13:30] My wife's kind of been hinting at me soon to pick up one of the commanders.

[01:13:33] Uh, but I've been building a, I said slowly building up a, like a, what is it like a reservoir of decks?

[01:13:42] Because I do want to get to a point where, you know, we can, as a team here, as a primos, you know,

[01:13:46] we're doing more gaming, more tabletop stuff.

[01:13:49] We can start kind of planning out that in the future.

[01:13:51] So hopefully look out for that primos.

[01:13:52] Uh, that's on its way.

[01:13:54] But primos here at the end of the show, you know, I want to just thank, of course, John Avena for joining us again.

[01:13:59] Check out his work.

[01:14:00] And again, can't speak highly enough.

[01:14:03] I mean, it's amazing.

[01:14:04] Check it out.

[01:14:05] AvenaComics.com.

[01:14:07] Definitely.

[01:14:07] Really good.

[01:14:08] Uh, and of course, check out at spice illustrations is a getter to that 10 K.

[01:14:12] Just make sure she gets there.

[01:14:14] Sure.

[01:14:14] Kevin Garcia, underscore com.

[01:14:16] And of course, follow my primos podcast and visit my primospodcast.com.

[01:14:20] And from Kevin, John, Ellie and myself.

[01:14:23] Remember primos, no matter where you're from, we're all primos.

[01:14:27] Take care.

[01:14:28] Adios.

[01:14:29] We out.

[01:14:31] We out.

[01:14:31] We out.

[01:14:32] We out.

[01:14:33] Thank you for watching and listening to my primos podcast.

[01:14:39] My primos podcast is produced by Chico Ume.

[01:14:45] My primos podcast was hosted by Elia Maria Madrid.

[01:14:49] Check her out at Spice Illustrations.

[01:14:53] Kevin Garcia.

[01:14:55] Check him out at Kevin Garcia, underscore com.

[01:15:03] I want to give a special thanks to our guest host, Mr. John Avena from Avena Comics.

[01:15:08] Check him out at Avena Comics.

[01:15:11] And of course, I'm your primos ready.

[01:15:13] Thanks for listening, primos.

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[01:15:18] See you next time.

[01:15:20] Adios.