S7 EP1: New season who dis? / Worlds War Comics

[00:00:00] How are you? How are you? How are you? How are you? Do you want a piece of wood? Do you want a piece of wood? Do you want a piece of wood? What are the Primos Primas and Primes? Elia, it's yours! You know what's mine?

[00:00:27] Look at that Primos. It's the start of a new season. And Elia is just right on point. That's how you know we're ready. It took us a few weeks to percolate. And it's the giggles that tell you the coffee is ready. December, January, February. Almost two months.

[00:00:45] Yeah, more than a couple of days. Yeah, at least one night. I shouldn't mention I'm not super great with numbers or time. But here we are Primos. Again, I'll try to restart the show here to get back in my rhythm. Dust it off here.

[00:00:59] But que onda, Primos, Primas and Primes and welcome back to the show. Que onda, Primos, Primas and Primes and welcome back to my Primos podcast. My name is Freddie. And with me tonight of course is my Primo and yours. We have Kevin, Garcia.com with the dot com.

[00:01:17] What's up Kevin? See that's why we have the intro. So you don't have to hear me say what's up Kevin every time. True, true, true. And that intro I want to thank of course are, my Prima and my Primo and my Primo.

[00:01:36] And the intro is a great one. I'm going to go back to the intro. And I want to thank you for the introduction when we had her on the show forever ago. And she joined and made this a much more star studded affair.

[00:01:52] We have Miss Elia Maria Spice illustrations. Welcome and say what's up Elia. Hey, what's up Elia? That's not cool when I do it though. I'm not one to interrupt. I'm the one that you know. Say what's up Freddie. Say what's up Freddie. Do it, do it.

[00:02:10] This show here is of course the first time tuning in is the Primos, Primas and Primes joining up three of us, four of us sometimes five of us here chatting about pop culture and of course from a Latina perspective. So I want to welcome any listeners

[00:02:28] and new viewers because we are now going more video route and I want to appreciate everybody that has been listening since the beginning. This is our seventh season. This is the season of Chikume but Chikume couldn't be here today but he will, he'll be back

[00:02:44] and I'm excited guys. I'm really pumped and we took a break and Primos just to get it out of the way kind of the usual course know you guys can follow us at My Primos Podcast and of course visit MyPrimosPodcast.com check out our posts, our socials

[00:02:58] and stay in touch. Can I just say that I'm really happy that we're on video sometimes because I want you all to know I am wearing pants. I'm not. I'm just kidding. I could be kidding or am I? Yeah, that's true. None of us could have legs.

[00:03:18] They don't have legs. You know what? I'm crazy about video. I have to worry about the lighting situation and like I have to have a 2-3 point of light you know and the shadow is not being so hard and so like

[00:03:32] and I wear a hat too so it does cast a shadow Oh yeah. You have like an underlight, don't you? I do have a light. For you listeners, Freddie looks good. Yeah. Oh, work. So there you go. They are indeed quite as the kids say dope.

[00:03:50] This is the first hat that I actually started collecting. My sister gave it to me. It has the like the Lakers, Dodgers kind of vibe going on and I'm familiar with it originally so that was like my sister bought this for me

[00:04:02] and it kind of started me down that path where now I have dozens and dozens of hats different colors and Can I just say that I just said a minute ago that I have difficult concepts of time sometimes I will reference things that I was not alive for

[00:04:18] so when you said you know LA, Dodgers and even the Brooklyn Dodgers Not that old, Kevin. No I'm not. That's what I'm saying. It's like it makes no sense. I can't tell you how many times I've been through like Vegas and I'm like look it's the Boulder Dam

[00:04:34] and they're like no it's the Denver Dam Oh my gosh. Oh people. Come on Kevin. You have a beard for a reason I guess. Father time, father time but it's been a few months we took the winter off and we're like regroup

[00:04:52] and rebuild and just kind of get re-energized so I'm excited. I'm glad we're here at BMOS and I wanted to take a moment of course already give you my spiel what the show is about but for those that don't know and you're new here

[00:05:04] I want to let my co-host kind of give themselves a little breathing room and kind of talk about themselves a little bit Elia to start with you, let the listeners know in case they're new and the viewers about you a little bit. Yeah so Elia for short.

[00:05:18] I'm an illustrator and cartoonist based in Dallas I like drawing animations, comics just anything that brings a smile to people's face I'm a total anime nerd. That's my main pop culture. Yeah all the way man. How many pieces of you would you say are anime fans? Wait what?

[00:05:40] How many pieces of you would you say are anime fans? Is it just or is it just too hard? He's trying too hard. He's trying too hard. All of me. I am the one piece. That's right. No yeah I get most of my

[00:06:00] inspiration in my work from anime series as well as like just silly anime. I love animation and I hope I can create some fun things that not just display my love for humor but la cultura Elia then I'll put you in the spot.

[00:06:14] What are your top three anime right now? Oh my god one piece number one because I'm obsessed with it right now I love food wars. I give that one a good watch through rewatch every now and then and Osamon Goddio is top classic

[00:06:30] like we'll go back and rewatch the whole thing in one go just for funsies. I love a good slice of life anime so Good list there. Good mix, good variety. I'm Kevin Garcia. Tell everybody about yourself and the dot com Go ahead sir. I'm Kevin.

[00:06:50] I am a high school teacher by day and sometimes freelance writer for the rest of time I guess. I've been writing now for over 25 years professionally writing newspapers worked for Marvel Comics for a while. I've been paid to read comic books by Disney

[00:07:10] so I can officially put on my business card professional comic book historian fully feel justified in that kind of a flex professional comic book reader. It's funny how it happened yeah and worked for 10 years and I also talk at Comic-Con a lot. I do a lot of talks

[00:07:28] I'm often the host for celebrity Q&As and that kind of thing so yeah. You got a TikTok popping off there. Where are we now? What's your TikTok follower count now? 8700 I can't do certain things with the app until I hit 10,000. It's been an ongoing mission

[00:07:50] for about a season or so that we need to get Kevin Garcia to 10,000 followers so find Kevin underscore Garcia Is that right Kevin? No. Just like you always call me KevinGarcia.com It's the same thing. KevinGarcia underscore com Literally in front of me Kevin Garcia underscore Wow

[00:08:14] By the way I did type KevinGarcia.com the other day just to see that I'm calling shenanigans sir it did not work. Yeah so I'm afraid of. I've been told I need to fix my certificate whatever that is. I don't know how to do that.

[00:08:30] I am like the least tech savvy guy so the fact that the one social media that I use is TikTok is insane. I know that like early too like really early. Yeah well no I got on TikTok a year ago that's not early for TikTok

[00:08:44] that's in the elder years for TikTok. I remember it was just people dancing to funny songs and then it just became a whole different thing. I mean it still can be. Yeah I started TikTok during the pandemic when everyone was like

[00:08:58] yeah these used to be musically I'm like I don't know what that is but I'm here for the vibes. Now most of the music is gone from TikTok so there you go. It is now. Yeah Universal Music Group and TikTok are in a disagreement so

[00:09:14] a lot of the songs that used to be with videos. It's all been pulled man just don't worry about it. Yeah. Alright put me on the spot. No comic books. That's your thing Marvel specifically would say pretty well versed. Alright alright. Top three superheroes.

[00:09:34] Top three superheroes. Well I'm going to give you two for Marvel and then one other for a reason I'll get to in a second. My number one superhero and number one supervillain has been for many years now more and I'm sticking with that one. First superhero to fly

[00:09:48] first superhero to be an anti-hero really he was the reason the Marvel Universe exists there were not any crossovers so the other heroes had to deal with him so he's definitely my top. After that gets a little bit tricky it depends on the week I guess and

[00:10:06] yeah I mean it goes on like that it's when it says it's hard to pick your favorite child you know what I mean one of my favorite recent books just just completed was called Marvel Unleashed and it was all about Marvel's pets as superheroes

[00:10:22] so basically it's like if a superhero ever had a pet they get to team up and go fight crime together and that comic book will make you cry I kid you not seek it out it is that good

[00:10:34] from issue one I was like oh you're going to do it aren't you oh man it is so it is funny it is sad it needs red now Marvel Unleashed look for it and the other one I was going to say because you brought up as a

[00:10:48] manga dial I was going to say the one manga that I recommend every single person read I'm not a big manga reader I enjoy manga I enjoy anime but I'm not a big reader but the one manga I bought every single volume of and I suggest other people

[00:11:02] seek out is called Yotsuba and you know because it's Yotsuba little ampersand and then an exclamation point so I pronounce it as Yotsuba and because it feels right it's from the creator of AsaMangaDio and it's just the entire thing is the world as seen

[00:11:18] through the eyes of a four year old everything is amazing to her and it's like I have not seen anybody who's read the little like 10 page chapters in that and not laughed out loud while reading it is another one of those that goes for the heart

[00:11:30] strings but in the best possible way so cute so good yeah well no I agree I don't work for Marvel I don't draw but I am a writer I am writing a comic book here short I'm writing a couple comic books actually that's a flex

[00:11:52] yeah next right there I am a writer but my big thing is I grew up in love just a fan of pop culture in general comic books films music I'm a bit of a music snob like I am that guy I own it

[00:12:06] I would have a friend tell me that he would watch a tv show or youtube channel with me sitting on top of a mountain with headphones on and it was like Freddy on Indie Mountain it was like no one's ever heard of this song

[00:12:18] but I do and I know it's better than half the things you listen to but that in movies I'm a big fan of that I love anime I'm just I consume it all consume it all yeah and to kind of hit each one of those for you

[00:12:34] my favorite anime I love the series I love the manga as well and we're looking at comic books I think The Wicked and the Divine is one of my favorite series now before you get to music I'm going to put you on the spot

[00:12:50] I want you to give us your top 3 indie bands that we have not heard of yes challenge well I mean if we've heard of it you haven't failed the challenge people haven't heard of it that they should have heard of you know okay I would say the Schuels

[00:13:08] C-H-U-L-L-S the Schuels very good Garagey something like the Vines The Hives during that era yeah yeah I can remember that she's blowing up a lot more now but I would say Lola Young she's not in a band she's just a vocalist she's great from the UK

[00:13:26] I had a single Kamau called Conceded it's a pop jam but not well known Lola Young and I've been recently I think they're called the McCharmleys their Latino band from LA and they do a lot of covers in the 60s and they have their own energy

[00:13:46] their own vibe as well like a surfer rock so those will be my 3 indie bands if I had to give you one I like it well no I mean because I always say I love music but I don't follow it so very like I have to have people

[00:14:04] introduce me to stuff for me to really get into it I have a playlist it's short it's only got 111 hours of music on it so it definitely could use more and I take suggestions I'm a geek man I love music I love music and I've even

[00:14:26] gone down rabbit holes of like oh you might like this they sound like this and they sound like that and I just go down the whole thing man I love music just yesterday somebody asked me if I had a record player and I was like of course

[00:14:38] and I love my son he's 14 now and we'll talk about music and it drives me crazy he hasn't hit that point you guys told me we'll move on to the topics here but there's a point in everybody's life right where media let's use media as an example

[00:14:52] music for me film for some books for some cartoon whatever anime that it hits you at the right time in your life in your youth and that just kind of springboard you into that whole world you know what it might be my brother

[00:15:08] my closest brother he's in his 30s now but I remember when he was like a young teen and he refused to watch any black and white movie because he's like they're old they don't matter whatever and then one day he watched the day the earth

[00:15:20] still and it just opened his mind to like all of these things that could be out there and now he's definitely an aficionado he will seek out like interesting films stories books history and I really think that like at that just the right time at the right place

[00:15:36] to see you know the day the earth is still and show him that a black and white movie can have depth to it and I was like you know it's what it took I grew up in a Latino household you guys did as well and

[00:15:50] it's hard to kind of narrow that you grew up with Spanish music Spanish television and then for me music and film really took a hold of me when I was in my teens and for me it's when I started hearing soul music like soul music

[00:16:04] from like the 60s and 70s that got me a hold of me man or my parents were like what are you listening to like you know we listen to covers of this in Spanish in a Salvador but I'm like this is the English version

[00:16:18] you know I went that route for me but for you guys like what media or what thing kind of springboardage all this is where I can pinpoint my start of that this is where why I like this stuff or why I enjoy this for me I would

[00:16:32] say like it was Otis Reading and Marvin Gaye anything from stacks you guys listening stacks records that got me yeah I have a dumb reason for why I got into comics I'm the oldest sibling but I was the youngest of my friend group and

[00:16:50] for whatever reason they decided that we would play video games in order of oldest youngest and I was like what am I fine so while they would do that I'd read comic books that were sitting on the shelf at my friend's house

[00:17:00] and then I figured my friend likes comics and they were talking to talk about this new thing called Ninja Turtles that was coming out so one day I'm out on vacation with my family and I see Ninja Turtles number one on the shelf

[00:17:12] and I'm like I'm gonna buy this and show it off to my friends that I got up before they did so I did and I showed it up and they didn't care but I was hooked now so for that comic on I never you know

[00:17:24] left my friend's history so yeah what about you what kind of comes to mind in your vibe your energy your yeah um I'll circle back on on my list also Mongadio the manga itself um it's panel comics and when I first started drawing comics I was really like

[00:17:48] these are just like little gags that tell one big story and I was like one day I want to be able to do that and it's like I don't have to because I read so much manga I was like way back

[00:17:58] at like I don't I don't anymore I want to get back into I literally downloaded the the manga app I'm gonna get back into it but like back in a day I would just read read read

[00:18:08] and the art would be so detailed and I'm like I don't think I'll ever like be able to get to that level and I might now like now I might but like I was Mongadio just kind of like I got so

[00:18:20] attached to it because they're just little four panel comics per strip and they made an anime series out of it and I'm like if I make a comic like this because I made panel comics for a long time I'm like what if one

[00:18:32] day it gets picked into a show because like this did it it doesn't have to be like the big illustrative stuff to make a story or a joke land like I was Mongadio which is so it was so slice of life it was so silly yet so real

[00:18:46] and I think like that's what helped kind of motivate as well um sticking with making my alien a box comic which was the first web comic I ever did um so yeah it's all thanks to my my weabiness that uh I just stayed inspired and we appreciate

[00:19:04] that weabiness hey people want to take a short break here uh in the meantime you'll listen to a song by sing color sing color has uh provided some music for the show moving forward so shout out to sing color check out at sing color

[00:19:18] music on our social media and this song is called limonada

[00:20:17] you can't help yourself can you elia we're back primos thank you so much man that was good man I love that song she really tried she really tried she did it she did it but thanks for coming back primos uh we are gonna dive into

[00:20:33] our topic today which is uh public domain especially public domain regarding comic books yeah there's so many so many comics out there uh you know I hear people all the time talking about how they want to you know download stuff for free legally which

[00:20:47] I'm not a fan of I feel like it it hurts people are like oh it doesn't hurt the big companies but it does hurt the individual artists you know um but with public domain comics there are just hundreds thousands out there for free legally

[00:21:01] guilt free you can read I go to this website at comic book plus all the time comic book plus dot com and I just scour through and read books from 40 50 mostly 80 years ago and there's so much with it so if I don't know what

[00:21:17] public domain is what does that mean like I don't know like you know it's another key I'm just kind of like is that free like what does that mean so I talk about this with my students all the time alright so you have things that copyright

[00:21:29] trademark and and that kind of thing and what happens is it used to be that if you made something you were an artist or a writer or musician whatever you had to say I am going to copyright this to myself and you declared it copyrighted

[00:21:41] and it's yours and under the old rules if you didn't do that correctly you didn't own it not permanently anyway and if you let it expire you didn't own it you know so for example the original Not A Living Dead movie was not

[00:21:55] correctly copyrighted so it went public domain the second that it was released by accident you know and so once something is a public domain anybody owns it you can make your own sequel to it you can make your own retelling of it you can republish it

[00:22:09] yourself it's all good let me start over there before you dive in because you're going to take it away but is that why recently we've been hearing conversations about like Superman right being public domain yeah so the question is is that Mickey Mouse yeah so for example

[00:22:27] Mickey Mouse just went public domain this year and when I say went public domain it's not exactly as people think it is because for a lot of these public domain comics they were pretty much only published in the public domain or back in the day

[00:22:41] rather some of them continued on some of them got repurchased and there were stories that are not public domain so they're nebulous but a lot of them only exist in that world so if you wanted to take these characters and retell them no problem Mickey Mouse however

[00:22:55] is only public domain in the sense that the first two cartoons and material related to that are in the public domain so you are more than welcome to take clips of that cartoon or even play the entire thing and he'll write this down making Mickey Mouse cartoon

[00:23:11] no jokes teamboat willy is one of my favorites so I was like there you go but the problem is that it doesn't mean Mickey Mouse the character is 100% because Disney owns the trademark to Mickey Mouse as a as an image and as a name

[00:23:25] for use in because when you trademark something you can only trademark it for different products or whatever and they've got a trademark for everything pretty much and plus any later versions of the mouse are still under copyright so if you were to make a new story

[00:23:39] Star Mickey Mouse and it was longer than a couple panels because he had seen a couple panel gags Disney doesn't care about those but if it's an ongoing story Star Mickey Mouse and there's anything similar to later versions of Mickey Mouse they could sue you over that

[00:23:51] so it's tricky by the way I want to say one thing real quick about copyright for me on and that is after 1976 you no longer have to declare it copyrighted now post 1976 you made it you own it as long as you showed it publicly you own it

[00:24:05] but the difference is now if you wanted to be public domain now you have to declare that I do not want to copyright this and that kind of thing so that's how you end up with things like the creative comments but because of

[00:24:17] this public domain you have a Kickstarter coming out don't you Kevin yeah I do I do I have been making I've been in comics for years like I said I made my own comic tail out back in the pandemic and I wanted to do a superhero comic

[00:24:31] about the history of comics basically and we'll talk about that later but because it was going to be a comic about history one of the characters to have a history so every character in the book technically exists earlier versions of them rather in the public domain

[00:24:47] I have made my own versions that would be under my copyright but like they're obviously continuations of those older comics and I think it's cool that somebody could pick up if it gets published and it gets succeeded as a crowdfunding campaign they can pick up my comic

[00:25:01] and then say I want to read more about these characters and they could go do that they can read more about those characters so I'm excited I'm curious and I have questions so you mean that if I and you'll touch on them here but

[00:25:15] if I dig one of your characters and I'm like man I wish I can find out more about them or lore but the lore is going to be different or is it actually can I go back and read these old domain public

[00:25:27] domain comics and get lore out of that from that character. So I have slightly changed each of their names so that that version of the character is my character but I tell you where to go to find them so like as far as I'm

[00:25:39] concerned all their old stories were canon in some way there may be things that don't make sense because in the 40s they would just throw everything at the wall and hope it sticks and then there may be some things that are just don't age well maybe

[00:25:55] racially insensitive images or other things that are just like that doesn't make that's not right you know so those things are canon ish but for the most part if I'm like hey here's we go to read more about these characters is the same character I just

[00:26:09] slightly changed the costume and name and made it my own character what Kevin what's the name of the comic I mean what is the campaign it's going to be world's war comics I definitely wanted it to look and feel like an old comic book so I

[00:26:25] have a I made a logo that's that's actually I wonder if any comic historians would look at my logo and be able to tell where the lettering came from for each of the parts of the name but but yeah I have this logo and I

[00:26:41] let's put that on the screen for everybody here like Kevin kind of lead us into it and this is kind of spoilers right now because officially my campaign launches on Valentine's Day so what you're seeing right now is a preview this is just what will be there

[00:26:59] maybe make some changes between now and then but you get the idea but basically I'm taking these old characters and reinventing them and I'm doing that with the help of a lot of artists I have who is a great artist who did this book called tank McGregor

[00:27:15] which is just a fun sci-fi romp that I just as soon as I saw it I was like I need to know more about this and when I was talking to him he's like you know I liked writing and drawing for myself but I wish

[00:27:25] I could draw for another writer and I'm like you don't say and then the colorist of tank McGregor is providing the art the color behind the art for it and that is Michael Woods he does this great stuff so I actually have this

[00:27:43] it's really fun seeing things go from the script to the pencils to the inks to the colors and it's just it's been a blast I also have other artists that I've been working with like Freddie Lopez Jr. who's going to be doing the cover

[00:27:59] in fact I have a what's on the screen right now is not the final cover the final cover looks amazing I'm going to put this up this looks amazing too I'm actually not amazing all yeah but like yeah yeah it is what it is

[00:28:09] and then I have other artists like Kerry Callan who he did a comic book called Halo's Sprocket and he did a lot of joke comics of like 1940s and 50s characters that just they went viral really quickly to the point that people see his comics and think they're

[00:28:25] real comics from the 40s and they're like oh I can't believe Wonder Woman said that like she didn't I have Marcus Newsom who did a great indie comic called Lightning Strike he just got this very dynamic energy to his art

[00:28:39] so I was really excited to have him do some art for me and then David Luhan who did he's doing his own comic called Nettida right now for a company called lesser known comics and he just said hey I can

[00:28:51] do some of these characters I said I'd love to have you do it and it just blew me away what he did so I'm like you know what I need to include this stuff so yeah all these characters are characters who start out in the

[00:29:03] public domain I've evolved them and changed them there's a character for example called Yankee Doodle Jones back in the 40s who he was bald faced a Captain America ripoff it's all he was literally there was a science experiment scientists gives this blonde guy you know

[00:29:19] powers to become the alpha patriot scientists gets killed by Nazi spies and then you know shenanigans but here's the thing though his story is a little bit different from Captain America's because there was no scrawny kid that got injected to become Captain America instead there were three

[00:29:37] wounded veterans who volunteered their bodies to science he then took them apart and put them back together again as one person he's a Frankenstein and and you would think oh this is gonna make a monster but no literally pops up behind the curtain all right

[00:29:51] doc I'm ready like and he's just a handsome blonde guy yeah okay success yes and then he gets injected with invincibility for a serum so now he's basically the shield he's a zombie and then yeah he's a zombie who is invincible but he doesn't

[00:30:07] look like it he looks attractive you know and so he's I've taken Yankee Doodle Jones and relabeled him Yo-Man Yankee so all of the characters are basically that we're taking a character and then evolve them a bit you know some of them like the fairy in here was

[00:30:23] known as Farrah the living goddess she only had two pages ever two pages and I'm turning her into one of my main main characters another character was originally called Wonder Man and I can't call him Wonder Man because you know Marvel but he is the first

[00:30:41] Superman ripoff and I say that with complete confidence because DC sued the company the second the first issue came out said you can't make that it's too similar and they lost so he only ever got one issue and I turned him into Sergeant Wonder

[00:30:55] his issue was drawn by Will Eisner which if you know anything about comics the Eisners are the authors of comics so yeah he's one of the first characters created by Will Eisner and I turned him into my Superman basically I am fascinated with the name of the Marjician

[00:31:11] well Marzician talk about her I really want to talk about the old comics themselves let's do it let's dive right in yeah well the Marjician as I call her is actually known as the Marjician sorry I can't say it now is the magician

[00:31:31] from Mars I've been saying Marzician so much that it's become like my phone recognizing it as a word now but she was actually called the magician from Mars and she is considered by most historians to be the first I hate to use the word superheroine

[00:31:47] because I hate the idea of gendering hero but she's the first woman superhero in comics there were other powered women in like pulp-wise 19, well I was going to say 39 but that's not right it's 40 isn't it 49 1939 so 1939 and there were other women with powers before her

[00:32:13] but they were either sidekicks comic strips not comic books or they didn't have a costume and she did have a costume it doesn't look like it here but in this issue itself at the end of the issue she puts this clothing together looks in the mirror

[00:32:25] and goes now I look like the magician from Mars and I'm like sure but by the by the third and fourth issues of her storyline she does have a red costume and by her last issue she has a different red costume

[00:32:37] so what I did is I just combined those costumes to make you know the one that we have in the comic and but it's just I find her fascinating because aside from being the first superhero woman she's unique in that there has never been a hero

[00:32:55] let me phrase that never been a main stream hero I'm sure there's been plenty of of indie comic like her and by that I mean this so she goes through her adventures first off immediately upon realizing she has powers as a child she can

[00:33:07] wish ice cream into existence make toys fly on the wall and then she says to herself literally I can destroy time and space and she says it excitedly but after you know throwing cars around as she can do she goes to earth from Mars and

[00:33:27] decides I need to fix things so in her second story she meets a man who was trying to jump off a river jump off a bridge into the river right and she's like what's wrong with you and it turns out he was an architect and his entire

[00:33:41] career was built around one project and it would make or break his entire life but a greedy politician and a greedy New York real estate tycoon conspired to make the whole thing collapse just so they can make a buck off it

[00:33:59] and that was going to ruin his career so when she found out she says well do you mind she looks at his blueprints waves her hand and the sky paper gets built so then the real estate tycoon runs up and goes

[00:34:11] hey that failure was going to make me so much money why did you do that and she literally punches him in the stratosphere and then the architects like wait are you sure that's what you're supposed to do she goes don't worry and as he falls back down

[00:34:23] she punches him up again because some people deserve that but then in the next issue there's a guy while she's walking down the street thinking she's already kind of famous by this point she's already saved a lot of people and she's in the news

[00:34:35] but this guy just walks up to her doesn't know who she is pulls a gun out and he's like look just give me all your money and she looks at him and she thinks to herself this guy doesn't want to be doing this

[00:34:43] he's doing this because life forced him into an uncomfortable situation he needs a better way out so she literally waves her hand and his gun becomes a wad of cash and he starts crying he can't believe somebody's

[00:34:57] helping him and then he runs off to go fix his life this is a very different superhero she is as powerful as the phoenix or scarlet witch but she cares about humans and not about things and the root of all problems instead of just the problem itself

[00:35:15] on facebook i love that look at the last page of her first appearance she steals 3 million dollars in gold from mars we don't really say why it's kind of weird but she gives half of it away the second she gets to earth she looks up people

[00:35:29] and she goes this guy is studying infant mortality 1.5 million dollars in 1939 she gave 1.5 million dollars to a guy studying infant mortality wow so i immediately said i had to include her in this story i made her part of the story

[00:35:49] she can create ice cream out of thin air friday was like i was already on board like the government doesn't like ice cream remember so i don't know why i'm revealing my dark secrets kevin garcy you need to make her allow her to make ice cream

[00:36:09] i don't want you to just be making ice cream and she's gonna give it to somebody and that other person is gonna be like i don't like ice cream i will boycott this i'm just kidding cream over alright let me show you this is my redesign

[00:36:27] of the mars jission redrawn by dadeed luhan so i think he did an amazing job of taking this is exactly the way i designed her i took the costume from one of her two of her appearances and then the shoulders and hat

[00:36:45] from another one of her appearances combined them together and it just came out perfect i even love that's not what i meant to do i'm trying to zoom on her face it's not working i mean kevin there we go i don't know why her eyes are glowing

[00:37:03] but it really works that's work i dig it man i dig the color scheme you gonna keep that color? the yellow and the teal oh you mean with the dots the benday dots that's just his art style that is gonna show up throughout the book

[00:37:21] we're gonna have flashbacks i wanted to look at some of these different golden age public domain characters and share some of what i love with you guys did you guys have a chance to read any of these books and check out some of the stuff i talked about

[00:37:35] yeah i went through the fantastic comics with what's his name this guy no i went through amazing comics i was watching the this guy yeah so the guy on the cover is samson his whole deal is just he's tall and strong if i recall correctly

[00:38:05] his dad just raised him to be really strong and tall he ends up getting a sidekick his sidekick is a teenage boy who is also tall and strong and he goes by david because they have to have that biblical name but of course he's just like

[00:38:21] you see how strong he is he literally just grabs a dive bomber out of the air and throws him out of the air because that's just how strong and again how to get that strong good exercise and healthy eating youtube can be a superhero

[00:38:35] it's the one punch man origin of power knowing is half the battle one of the titles that cracked me up was for years peace reigned in europe and i was like i'm sold because that's fantasy i was like god i'm sold this is fake let's dive right in

[00:38:55] favorite kind of fantasy well the reason that i had mentioned this was not samson although i do like samson a lot it's because there's a character who shows up in the same issue who is infamous among golden age comic fans as being one of the weirdest

[00:39:11] and that is star dust the super wizard because fletcher hanks there's books whole books written about fletcher hanks he was a artist writer in the 30s and 40s who was interesting we'll say by all accounts from his family not a great person but he did

[00:39:32] let everything that came to his brain show up on the page like there was no filter so like star dust his powers are whatever he needs to do today that's his powers so there'll be issues like he just appears out of shadows

[00:39:46] and then he will just make all things suddenly not have gravity or he will grab somebody by the spine and squeeze them or he'll leave everybody who's evil and just let them float for a while just to float

[00:39:58] or maybe he's like you know what let's make them skeletons now because they're bad guys anyway or he'll be like there's one issue where he like turns a guy into nothing but a head and feet and he's like that's what you get for being a crime boss

[00:40:08] and walks away and the guy's like what am I supposed to do now it was just so weird and then along that lines there's another creator Basil Woolverton who later on got known to doing some really really out there comics but some of his early work

[00:40:24] was just you could already see his weirdness kind of show up in the book I love this illustration style so much the color, the art there's a reason they called it four color comics because back then there were really just four colors you had to choose from

[00:40:42] and you could only mix and match with those four colors you need to go watch the youtube of this or if you have Spotify it'll be a video too but you're missing out you gotta watch this too because his art is great so gorgeous, yeah

[00:40:56] other one I really want to show you guys though is somebody called The Eye now this guy doesn't fit into my story right now although he's just he's so much fun a lot of other creators have used him as well he's got other books don't tell me anything

[00:41:10] because I haven't read it, don't tell me anything when I see The Eye sees you will tell me, I know you will Kevin tell me what do you see the evil eye like that's what I recall like the curse eye the evil eye that curses you

[00:41:26] am I anywhere near that neighborhood you are 100% correct but let me ask you a question when you hear malojo how do you visualize it appearing like is that a person who stares at you I think it's a person that stares at you and curses you

[00:41:44] so here's where the eye is different the eye is not a person who stares at you the eye is literally just an eye that floats there out of nowhere like the size of a basketball for example this little boy got captured by the mob

[00:42:00] and they tied him up I wonder what's that thing I am the eye I witnessed your courageous resistance and I am here to help you but first you must be freed gee and I feel like now listen closely to my instructions

[00:42:20] and that is the way all of the eyes stories go I love it I'm always gonna hear your voice now just in that tone you have to he's like a fiddly accurate cornea he is he has no origin he just exists so here is this crime boss

[00:42:42] and he's got one of his men named spaghetti and there's a woman who works for him that doesn't like working for him but she doesn't have a choice so she's like what am I gonna do and as she's sitting there thinking about it spaghetti killed that poor nicky

[00:42:58] you need to read this please read this for me oh, Elliot has a great voice her name is Betty spaghetti killed poor little nicky but what can I do he runs his town you can do something her face whoa I love that he's a boy she's getting dressed

[00:43:22] go back where it says would I because the eye wait we're not there yet hold up no man is too big to escape justice nobody not even spaghetti he killed your brother he has killed many others I admired you for your brave stand today in the gangsta stronghold

[00:43:44] would you like to see spaghetti behind boss would I it goes on like that look at those lashes though I saw blue ashes so the eyes powers are much like stardust anything he needs to do he can do but he does it by being a giant eye

[00:44:04] so he turns people into salt he makes planes just suddenly not work in the air whatever he wants to do he does but he only does it if he sees evil happening and it's just it's just I think we need to make Betty a reoccurring character Kevin

[00:44:22] if we can have anything to do with your Kickstarter Betty needs to be in an area like a one liner would I just shut up in the background like golly gosh would you like to see somebody die a horrible death would I would I oh goody

[00:44:40] these are just some old comics that I love going through and reading some of the weirdness Freddie you said you liked captain science what was it you said you liked about that guy captain science I love the artwork first of all and secondly like I love like

[00:44:54] sci-fi has so many layers right and the fact that this it looks like a Johnny quest cartoon to me you know this predates Johnny quest but it's the same basic setup scientist little kids sidekick all that kind of stuff exactly man so I was so pumped because

[00:45:08] I love Johnny quest and venture brothers after that because it's a whole different you know campiness but this took me back to those old school I don't know what you call them I see them in Spanish other with his little like adventures where little

[00:45:22] yeah there you go just like that and so it threw me white right back to that and I really dig the story the aliens and just everything about it you mentioned the artist this is Wally Wood he's considered to be one of the the best artists ever from

[00:45:38] the 40s to the 50s he don't google Wally Wood Disney poster don't do that just don't damn it I'm good doing it right now but but Wally Wood he had a dirty mind but he was a really really good artist and this comic was Captain Science

[00:46:02] and it was a very kind of a mediocre comic when it first came out and then Wally Wood why is it a thousand dollars for I don't know what you're talking about moving on do you don't google it but yeah Wally Wood took over this mediocre comic

[00:46:18] and he put a special bit of art into it oh wow yeah uh I didn't know that I found a black light version oh wow I just didn't know Daisy Duck had a mole I gotta say when I read this comic before

[00:46:40] I looked at the credits I was flipping through this comic and I go why do I feel like Wally Wood drew this and if you look at the panel on the screen you can see oh that's why I thought Wally Wood drew this that's why

[00:46:52] yeah he's got an eye but I do want to say I do want to say something interesting about Captain Science that I think it's just nuts is that he's got the same origin as Hal Jordan Green Lantern but 10 years earlier almost 10 years earlier

[00:47:06] the origin is you know he's out in the desert and a spaceship crashes and he's dying but I choose you to be the next one he gives him a big handheld device and says you're going to be the next hero you're going to be Captain Science

[00:47:18] it's the same origin right but the difference is that he had a little teenage boy with him because he was a teacher and the boy's parents just died so he's taking them camping as you do I guess and the alien makes the boy pass out

[00:47:28] and Captain Science goes well what about the boy and the alien says don't worry while he's asleep I'm conditioning his mind so that he will want to help you with your your own adventures and since his parents died and left him a lot of money

[00:47:42] I'm leaving a suggestion in his brain that will make him want to donate all that money to you so you can build a laboratory and I'm like this is the hero science that's the big brain stuff so Captain Science is in my comic book

[00:47:58] but I call him Dr. Science yeah and uh so Kevin when we launch when will we be able to you know go on there support you have the pretty most show up so I I'm running this uh World War comics with an S

[00:48:18] I realize that's confusing but it's also a URL that I've owned for years because I wanted to do this comic book for years um and uh I'm going to launch the crowdfunding campaign on February 14th I'm going to launch it on Valentine's Day

[00:48:32] it's going to run through the Iides of March uh March 15th uh so anytime during that time if you're like hey I want to help somebody create a comic book donate a dollar or if you want to be like you know I want to

[00:48:46] love that comic book donate more than a dollar you know so it's something I've been looking forward to for a long time no Kevin well I am excited I think all of us here of course are supporting you know the work you're doing

[00:49:02] I am excited because it's just the fact that we get to create right and we all have a hand in the fact that we can help you get there and that's just what this community is supposed to do right we're supposed to lift each other up

[00:49:14] and that's what we need to do we want to move forward and just support Kevin Garcia everybody so definitely definitely definitely stay tuned but this episode launching it will be live so definitely go check out worlds war comics com you can also just search for worlds war comics

[00:49:34] in Kickstarter it will be right there you also have an event going on this week one that is more altruistic than mine yes a little more every year for the past couple years I've been doing a charity stream around Valentine's Day

[00:50:04] this year I'm doing it a little more February focused but I call it the Cursed Tea Party and what I like to do is I partner with the American Heart Association to raise money and I draw hybrid toy creations kind of based off of

[00:50:24] Sid's room in Toy Story and I draw them all at a tea party together and so for every donation over $10 people can either have me spin a wheel of toys or they can submit their own creation and I draw everyone together at a tea party

[00:50:40] and all funds go towards the American Heart Association it's fun me and my son participate in the last year as well well now I feel bad running a crowdfunding campaign because that's more valid I'm sorry okay so here's the thing you donate to the comic

[00:51:00] then you go donate to the American Heart Association people that really need it you know what Alia your heart's in the right place stop there it is everybody I will say though one thing about the American Heart Association because I'm partnering with the Latine Twitch group

[00:51:18] Cafe Cultivar and one thing that the AHA has worked really really hard on is making heart health more available to marginalized communities they actually launched an initiative last year which is why I'm a big like let's do it I'm all about supporting

[00:51:34] marginalized communities and having access to health not just for the rich people you know what I'm saying so yeah I'm excited I'm a fan I've watched Alia streams on Twitch and definitely supported me and my son did some suggestions in art

[00:51:50] so it was fun my kid did a cursed tamagotchi I think that was fun yeah a lot of fun it's just so talented it's fun it actually makes it happen and definitely go support Primo's it's a lot a lot of fun it's for a good cause definitely

[00:52:06] Kevin you know we're getting close to the end of the show here and there's one thing that we kind of started talking about as a new season right you know we all consume different things and we have a lot of different obsessions if you will

[00:52:20] we tend to kind of and you know one thing that I'm obsessed with so we're going to end it with this stuff here is Kevin Garcia had a rat tail so he needed to elaborate I feel like this is becoming a new

[00:52:34] trend where you're going to find some dark secret about me and then you're going to become obsessed with how weird it is first with the it was the ice cream and that okay so yes I had a rat tail for a good chunk of my life

[00:52:50] pretty much from like age 9 or so maybe younger through probably age 25 it was right in the square middle of my back of my head and it went all the way down a rat tail is a it's a little thin braid you just wonder like okay

[00:53:08] so I had this way before Anakin did but it's basically what Anakin was wearing on the side of his head don't do that people were like oh you mean like Star Wars and I'm like I've had this no no you originated the look Star Wars took your look

[00:53:24] but at it's Zenith it was all the way from the back of my head to about almost my belt line but the thing is this can you hold the rest of it short in the front yep everything not in the front everything was short

[00:53:38] so like I tucked it into my shirt so only my best friends knew it even existed what super power and the funny part is and I am fully everyone hated it everyone but I hated so much I love it yeah that's right I need it

[00:54:02] like I need to see pictures okay yeah same hashtag kevin's rat tail I cut it off years ago I was at an event and I gave it to my dad to hold on to for a minute

[00:54:12] and then at the end of the night I came to my dad and he's like uh was it supposed to hold it somewhere I burned it wait no no no you don't understand he doesn't do that stuff on purpose he just didn't know where it went

[00:54:22] so for years I was like well I better grow a new one just so I have one to keep and all my friends like no and then it became sentient and ran away 15 years later my friend of mine goes oh yeah I have

[00:54:36] that and I'm like what yeah I took it as a prank here you go and he gave it back to me so his idea of a prank tell me it's sitting on your shelf somewhere it's in a drawer I'm gonna dig it out don't play Kevin Garcia

[00:54:52] I have to find it this is where we're gonna put a picture of it later yeah it it needs to happen right here if you cut to another song I will look for it we can cut to another song I looked for it can't find it

[00:55:41] it's somewhere in this house I got nothing but I could grow a new one yeah go for it when you hit 10,000 on tiktok you have to start the next one everybody go follow Kevin Garcia on tiktok I know my partner will kill you for that I'm sorry

[00:56:04] but I will say my hair grows fast so jealous let's see what happens I wanted to end the night guys with something that we're really into right now hyper focused on to close it out for the brimos for the first episode of the season

[00:56:18] since you know my obsession is Kevin's rat tail but no seriously I am reading I don't know if you guys were fans you guys are real both kind of gamers but BioShock came out 10-15 years ago and they released a novel like around the same time called rapture

[00:56:38] and it's pretty much the history of rapture being built and Andrew Ryan and the lore behind it and how it became what it was and it's just so in depth so well written definitely check it out it's a blast let's just look at BioShock rapture and it's literally

[00:56:54] the library it's awesome so definitely check it out I am looking at there's two cartoons that I've been watching over the past week that I I am not only really into but also my circle is also constantly talking about and there are two ends of the spectrum

[00:57:14] one end we have Devil Girl Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur although Devil Girl does show up Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur season 2 just dropped on Disney and I don't know how but with every episode from season 1 to 2 it has just continually gotten better and it started amazing

[00:57:34] it is wholesome, it is adorable good for kids, good for adults it's just so much fun and the songs are infectious but the other thing the other thing I'm watching is also a cartoon and it is not for children and it is called the Has been Hotel

[00:57:50] and it is very good I saw that and the songs are also infectious they're both musical you know the 20-30 minute long episodes but similar in art style maybe but that's about it both really good I was on a panel with someone who did storyboard work

[00:58:14] for the original cartoon she's really cool what are you hyper obsessed with right now so besides one piece I'm in the Wano Arc right now and I'm in the Japanese episode where the dub in English ended so we're now in the Japanese episode

[00:58:34] we're like 30 episodes from Joy Boy for anyone who knows what that means so that's my one piece journey right now because we're trying to catch up so quickly but also on Netflix there's a show called Delicious in Dungeon I've only watched one episode so far

[00:58:52] but I liked it oh my god it's so cute I'm excited we're going to wait until it all comes out because I'm a binger so we're going to wait until it all comes out and then watch it all at once but that's one of the other shows

[00:59:06] that we've been trickling but we're really trying to plow through one piece so we can just be done now at this point any show is not long to me because I've hit a thousand episodes and one side obsession thing with one piece right now on my TikTok

[00:59:24] is I have matched all 26 openings and synced them to a pitbull song I've been sharing your openings with people I'm still on alabaster right now so I've got a ways to go but I have friends that are deep into it and I've been sending them that

[00:59:44] because your anime openings are good some of them are a little a little miss more than hits but the one that I'm uploading tomorrow which is Friday the whatever today my phone won't tell me the night Friday to whatever today tomorrow I'm uploading my favorite one

[01:00:02] which is opening 11 it'll be up by the time you all hear this so go listen go listen before we end the night thank you guys for listening want to give a big shout out here for projects of course Elia, go ahead and talk about your stream

[01:00:20] coming out it's on the 16th that'll be the first one and then I hope fingers crossed there's overflow needed from all the donations so I'll be doing a second part at the end of the month but I'll be taking donations all through the month of February for CurseToy

[01:00:40] illustrations and just donating to the American Heart Association what's your social so everybody can find you I am spiced Elias Trations across everything except Twitter because I couldn't have all the characters so I'm just Elias Trations there awesome and Kevin let's talk about the Kickstarter

[01:00:58] and of course everybody can find you in your comic book I am found on tiktok or instagram at kevingarcia underscore com also technically kevingarcia.com although like you said I need to get that that site fixed I am not I am technically on twitter

[01:01:14] I just don't use it I don't I don't but I think that's also at kevingarcia underscore com I need to double check that I'm not actually certain but yeah my comic worldswarcomics.com and I'm super excited about it starts on the 14th I actually just got

[01:01:32] the final cover by artist Freddie Lopez Jr who does some amazing sci-fi and fantasy art I told him as soon as I knew this project was going to happen I approached him and I said Freddie you are the only person that I want to do this cover

[01:01:46] and yeah take a look at that man it's just oh my god yeah this is the character we've been talking about you got doctor science there aka captain science we got Mars, Gishin, HK the magician from Mars we've got Yankee little Jones who has become the yeoman Yankee

[01:02:02] and so many others so I'm just super excited the whole goal of this the cover here was to make it look like a propaganda poster from World War 2 and I feel like he captured that entirely absolutely with like a modern twist I love it that is so cool

[01:02:18] I'm excited man you want to run with it through I can't run I'm going to wrap it up here Elia at the beginning and at the end you always get me right I didn't know we're wrapping it up guys it's the end of the

[01:02:32] show we got more to say but we got tons of episodes to get that done in and of course pretty much I am Freddie the show you can follow us at myprimospodcast.com and as always primos no matter where you're from we're all primos we out